Moving server to dynamic IP - will this work??

Hi!

We are currently looking into moving our server to a local office since 
response time is horribly sluggish atm (when server is stationed at a web 
hotel), etc opening files and stuff like that can take minutes.

Our local office only has dynamic IP, there is no way to attain static IP.

Our server hosts our website, Exchange server system and local domain server 
system.

I know we can use DYNDNS to make the change but how?! We already have a FQDN 
that we must use, so we cannot change our website/email to a dyndns name.

We do not want to DYNDNS to manage our domain name. So we want to keep our 
current host for domain name.

What I am wondering is if it possible to somehow reroute a FQDN to a DNS 
that routes traffic to DYNDNS domain name

See this example:

ourcompany.com -> ourcompany.dyndns.org -> dynamic IP?

Is this possible? How do we go about it or is all wrong?

Question 2 is how we do this change. One solution is that we log into the 
service provided by the company were we bought our domain and change the 
adresses for our server that currently points to a DNS server that belongs to 
a company we hired for this purpose and make it instead point directly 
towards DYNDNS.

Anoter solution is taht we contact the same company and have them change 
their IP adress values to point at DYNDNS instead at direclty to our server.

I might be going about this completely the wrong way, so I would really 
appreciate some help.

Thanks!

P.S. Yes, I already now you shouldnt have your server at a dynamic IP. But 
Ive read that there shouldn't be any problems with doing that and its outside 
the scope of this thread.
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Job Andersson wrote:

>Hi!
>
>We are currently looking into moving our server to a local office since
>response time is horribly sluggish atm (when server is stationed at a web
>hotel), etc opening files and stuff like that can take minutes.
>
>Our local office only has dynamic IP, there is no way to attain static IP.

Are you sure? ~99% of business-grade internet connections have static IP 
availability, sometimes for free, sometimes for an extra fee.


>Our server hosts our website, Exchange server system and local domain 
>server
>system.

Hosting a public website on SBS is not a good idea.


>I know we can use DYNDNS to make the change but how?! We already have a 
>FQDN
>that we must use, so we cannot change our website/email to a dyndns name.
>
>We do not want to DYNDNS to manage our domain name. So we want to keep our
>current host for domain name.
>
>What I am wondering is if it possible to somehow reroute a FQDN to a DNS
>that routes traffic to DYNDNS domain name
>
>See this example:
>
>ourcompany.com -> ourcompany.dyndns.org -> dynamic IP?
>
>Is this possible? How do we go about it or is all wrong?

Delete the Host record for www.yourdomain.com, and instead create a CNAME 
for www.yourdomain.com that has crappyinternetconnection.dyndns.org for 
the alias.


>Question 2 is how we do this change. One solution is that we log into the
>service provided by the company were we bought our domain and change the
>adresses for our server that currently points to a DNS server that belongs 
>to
>a company we hired for this purpose and make it instead point directly
>towards DYNDNS.

Huh? All you need do is update the DNS records for your domain (to work 
with a dynamic IP).


>Anoter solution is taht we contact the same company and have them change
>their IP adress values to point at DYNDNS instead at direclty to our 
>server.
>
>I might be going about this completely the wrong way, so I would really
>appreciate some help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>P.S. Yes, I already now you shouldnt have your server at a dynamic IP. But
>Ive read that there shouldn't be any problems with doing that and its 
>outside
>the scope of this thread.

Then you've probably read all the comments that tell you why a static IP 
is superior, and avoids having to deal with silly nonsense like DynDNS 
(who do a good job, under the circumstances!).

-- 
Steve Foster
------------
Please reply only to the newsgroups.
For SSL Certificates, Domains, etc, visit.: https://netshop.virtual-isp.net
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Steve
2/5/2010 4:00:06 PM
As Steve points out, it may be possible to get a "static" address. But even 
if it isn't, you can use a dynamic one with a service such as DynDNS. Or, 
what I do is use ZoneEdit.com to manage my DNS records, and then load a copy 
of DirectUpdate on the server. It runs as a service and will automatically 
connect to a long list of DNS providers (including both DynDNS and ZoneEdit) 
and update the records whenever there's a change. It's an inexpensive piece 
of shareware that I've been quite satisfied with.

-- 
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Job Andersson" <JobAndersson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:40193063-524A-446D-BE09-317CD5499455@microsoft.com...
> Hi!
>
> We are currently looking into moving our server to a local office since
> response time is horribly sluggish atm (when server is stationed at a web
> hotel), etc opening files and stuff like that can take minutes.
>
> Our local office only has dynamic IP, there is no way to attain static IP.
>
> Our server hosts our website, Exchange server system and local domain 
> server
> system.
>
> I know we can use DYNDNS to make the change but how?! We already have a 
> FQDN
> that we must use, so we cannot change our website/email to a dyndns name.
>
> We do not want to DYNDNS to manage our domain name. So we want to keep our
> current host for domain name.
>
> What I am wondering is if it possible to somehow reroute a FQDN to a DNS
> that routes traffic to DYNDNS domain name
>
> See this example:
>
> ourcompany.com -> ourcompany.dyndns.org -> dynamic IP?
>
> Is this possible? How do we go about it or is all wrong?
>
> Question 2 is how we do this change. One solution is that we log into the
> service provided by the company were we bought our domain and change the
> adresses for our server that currently points to a DNS server that belongs 
> to
> a company we hired for this purpose and make it instead point directly
> towards DYNDNS.
>
> Anoter solution is taht we contact the same company and have them change
> their IP adress values to point at DYNDNS instead at direclty to our 
> server.
>
> I might be going about this completely the wrong way, so I would really
> appreciate some help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> P.S. Yes, I already now you shouldnt have your server at a dynamic IP. But
> Ive read that there shouldn't be any problems with doing that and its 
> outside
> the scope of this thread. 

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Charlie
2/5/2010 4:31:05 PM
Steve in defense of the OP
Trust me Even though yes you should be able to get a Business Static IP
There are places that do not give a Static IP even though they claim they 
are a Business ISP
(Yes They are not)

To the OP
Yes you can use a Dynamic IP, along with Steve's and Charlie's Suggestion

 I also Suggest Getting backup MX Records from some place like
DNSMADEEASY.COM
And set your TTL on your MX As low as you can
Then in case your IP changes and the updater misses the change
At least then your mail won't bounce until you change your IP to the correct 
setting :)
Russ

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"Steve Foster" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:xn0gq19itp52w1301a@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Job Andersson wrote:
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>We are currently looking into moving our server to a local office since
>>response time is horribly sluggish atm (when server is stationed at a web
>>hotel), etc opening files and stuff like that can take minutes.
>>
>>Our local office only has dynamic IP, there is no way to attain static IP.
>
> Are you sure? ~99% of business-grade internet connections have static IP 
> availability, sometimes for free, sometimes for an extra fee.
>
>
>>Our server hosts our website, Exchange server system and local domain 
>>server
>>system.
>
> Hosting a public website on SBS is not a good idea.
>
>
>>I know we can use DYNDNS to make the change but how?! We already have a 
>>FQDN
>>that we must use, so we cannot change our website/email to a dyndns name.
>>
>>We do not want to DYNDNS to manage our domain name. So we want to keep our
>>current host for domain name.
>>
>>What I am wondering is if it possible to somehow reroute a FQDN to a DNS
>>that routes traffic to DYNDNS domain name
>>
>>See this example:
>>
>>ourcompany.com -> ourcompany.dyndns.org -> dynamic IP?
>>
>>Is this possible? How do we go about it or is all wrong?
>
> Delete the Host record for www.yourdomain.com, and instead create a CNAME 
> for www.yourdomain.com that has crappyinternetconnection.dyndns.org for 
> the alias.
>
>
>>Question 2 is how we do this change. One solution is that we log into the
>>service provided by the company were we bought our domain and change the
>>adresses for our server that currently points to a DNS server that belongs 
>>to
>>a company we hired for this purpose and make it instead point directly
>>towards DYNDNS.
>
> Huh? All you need do is update the DNS records for your domain (to work 
> with a dynamic IP).
>
>
>>Anoter solution is taht we contact the same company and have them change
>>their IP adress values to point at DYNDNS instead at direclty to our 
>>server.
>>
>>I might be going about this completely the wrong way, so I would really
>>appreciate some help.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>P.S. Yes, I already now you shouldnt have your server at a dynamic IP. But
>>Ive read that there shouldn't be any problems with doing that and its 
>>outside
>>the scope of this thread.
>
> Then you've probably read all the comments that tell you why a static IP 
> is superior, and avoids having to deal with silly nonsense like DynDNS 
> (who do a good job, under the circumstances!).
>
> -- 
> Steve Foster
> ------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> For SSL Certificates, Domains, etc, visit.: 
> https://netshop.virtual-isp.net 

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Russ
2/6/2010 8:57:56 AM
        If you must use a dynamic IP, be sure not to use a software updating 
client, as they are unreliable. Always use a router/firewall with a built-in 
updating client. Disregard any protests to the contrary from the dynamic DNS 
service.

        One more consideration is that you'll probably need to use a 
smarthost (usually the ISP's mail server) for outbound mail. If you try to 
use DNS many important and less important mail servers will not accept your 
mail simply because it comes from a dynamic IP address. Alternatively, you 
can create a separate SMTP connector for any mail server that bounces your 
mail and just route that mail via the smarthost.

        Once you have the dynamic DNS host name operational, simply point 
your MX toward it. You do not have to transfer your domain registration, and 
you do not need to change your DNS information unless the control panel or 
technical support for the DNS does not allow you to change the MX record.



"Job Andersson" <JobAndersson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:40193063-524A-446D-BE09-317CD5499455@microsoft.com...
> Hi!
>
> We are currently looking into moving our server to a local office since
> response time is horribly sluggish atm (when server is stationed at a web
> hotel), etc opening files and stuff like that can take minutes.
>
> Our local office only has dynamic IP, there is no way to attain static IP.
>
> Our server hosts our website, Exchange server system and local domain 
> server
> system.
>
> I know we can use DYNDNS to make the change but how?! We already have a 
> FQDN
> that we must use, so we cannot change our website/email to a dyndns name.
>
> We do not want to DYNDNS to manage our domain name. So we want to keep our
> current host for domain name.
>
> What I am wondering is if it possible to somehow reroute a FQDN to a DNS
> that routes traffic to DYNDNS domain name
>
> See this example:
>
> ourcompany.com -> ourcompany.dyndns.org -> dynamic IP?
>
> Is this possible? How do we go about it or is all wrong?
>
> Question 2 is how we do this change. One solution is that we log into the
> service provided by the company were we bought our domain and change the
> adresses for our server that currently points to a DNS server that belongs 
> to
> a company we hired for this purpose and make it instead point directly
> towards DYNDNS.
>
> Anoter solution is taht we contact the same company and have them change
> their IP adress values to point at DYNDNS instead at direclty to our 
> server.
>
> I might be going about this completely the wrong way, so I would really
> appreciate some help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> P.S. Yes, I already now you shouldnt have your server at a dynamic IP. But
> Ive read that there shouldn't be any problems with doing that and its 
> outside
> the scope of this thread. 


0
Andrew
2/6/2010 3:25:11 PM
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