Exchange for remote users/offices

Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.

Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
everyones mail...

jared
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Why not get rid of POP totally and use either OWA or Outlook Anywhere to 
have the remote users/offices access their mail?

"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
news:labtj51ggcoh16ml5nmsdicrgh76438bap@4ax.com...
> Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
> reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
> here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
> I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
> remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>
> Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
> as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
> want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
> a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
> mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
> am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
> which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
> everyones mail...
>
> jared 


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SteveB
1/2/2010 3:08:26 AM
I'd concidered that, but many really want to use Outlook...

jared

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:08:26 -0800, "SteveB" <newsgroup@public.lan>
wrote:

>Why not get rid of POP totally and use either OWA or Outlook Anywhere to 
>have the remote users/offices access their mail?
>
>"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
>news:labtj51ggcoh16ml5nmsdicrgh76438bap@4ax.com...
>> Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>> reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>> here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>> I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>> remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>
>> Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>> as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>> want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>> a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>> mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>> am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>> which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>> everyones mail...
>>
>> jared 
>
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Jaredean
1/2/2010 4:40:35 AM
I see no real advantage to moving it all inhouse. I'd probably continue as 
is. I haven't checked if popbeamer is 2007 ready but it would surprise me to 
find not and 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/library/bb125075(EXCHG.65).aspx for the 
external users.

"SteveB" <newsgroup@public.lan> wrote in message 
news:u7vAcj1iKHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Why not get rid of POP totally and use either OWA or Outlook Anywhere to 
> have the remote users/offices access their mail?
>
> "Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
> news:labtj51ggcoh16ml5nmsdicrgh76438bap@4ax.com...
>> Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>> reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>> here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>> I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>> remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>
>> Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>> as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>> want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>> a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>> mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>> am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>> which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>> everyones mail...
>>
>> jared
>
> 


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SuperGumby
1/2/2010 4:49:21 AM
Two opions
Buy a Certificate for your SBS2008

Have them use https://remote.yourdomain.com for Exchange
(If you haven't seen OWA in Exchange 2007 it's pretty good.)

Or if you want to use Outlook
Set up RPC over HTTPS on the remote users using Outlook 2003 or 2007
Since the PC's are not in the Domain they will have to enter credentials
But then the Mail is Saved on the Server
and not just the PC
I'd avoid POP3 just because of NO backups of contacts and email/calendars
Russ

-- 
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Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
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Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com


"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
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> I'd concidered that, but many really want to use Outlook...
>
> jared
>
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:08:26 -0800, "SteveB" <newsgroup@public.lan>
> wrote:
>
>>Why not get rid of POP totally and use either OWA or Outlook Anywhere to
>>have the remote users/offices access their mail?
>>
>>"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message
>>news:labtj51ggcoh16ml5nmsdicrgh76438bap@4ax.com...
>>> Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>>> reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>>> here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>>> I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>>> remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>>
>>> Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>>> as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>>> want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>>> a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>>> mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>>> am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>>> which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>>> everyones mail...
>>>
>>> jared
>> 
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Russ
1/2/2010 8:32:58 AM
Interesting.  I actually will voice a difference of opinion with SuperGumby 
here.  Specifically, I see three distinct advantages between a pop3 setup 
and moving all mail in-house.

1) Centralized user administration.  With pop3, there are two user accounts 
for some of your users.  One at the ISP, and one on your SBS server.  That 
is two accounts to troubleshoot when there are problems.  Two places where 
passwords can be wrong.  Two places where you can blame the the ISP when 
there are problems and they can blame you.  Even for the off-site users that 
may not have an SBS account, the ISP account they have is, primarily, 
outside of your control.....but as the IT person, still within your 
responsibility.  I don't know about you, but I'm far more UNcomfortable 
being responsible for something I can't control than I would be about having 
more users.

2) Centralized backups.  Russ touched on this, but by moving email in-house, 
you now have everyone on the same platform with the same level of 
protection.  No longer can an employee say "I sent that file as a PDF last 
week!   The ISP must've lost it!"  You now manage their email.  That 
includes backups, but also means you have the full suite of troubleshooting, 
message tracking, and auditing at your disposal.

3) From a user perspective, they gain the full advantage of exchange, not 
just messaging.  That includes calendars, appointments, task lists, etc. 
Maybe they already use a BCM for this, but this still is the difference 
between them using some random 3rd-party product to fill in the gaps....a 
product you may not know about, have control over, or be expected to 
support, and having everyone on the same page.  Or...to look at it another 
way, you lose the disadvantages of pop3.  Lack of BCC leaps to mind 
(regardless of the type of pop3 connector used) and the other inherent 
limitations of the pop3 protocol make it less than ideal in a 
mail-forwarding environment.

Anyways, those are my thoughts,

-Cliff


"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message 
news:OqgO1b2iKHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I see no real advantage to moving it all inhouse. I'd probably continue as 
> is. I haven't checked if popbeamer is 2007 ready but it would surprise me 
> to find not and 
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/library/bb125075(EXCHG.65).aspx for the 
> external users.
>
> "SteveB" <newsgroup@public.lan> wrote in message 
> news:u7vAcj1iKHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Why not get rid of POP totally and use either OWA or Outlook Anywhere to 
>> have the remote users/offices access their mail?
>>
>> "Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
>> news:labtj51ggcoh16ml5nmsdicrgh76438bap@4ax.com...
>>> Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>>> reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>>> here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>>> I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>>> remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>>
>>> Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>>> as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>>> want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>>> a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>>> mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>>> am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>>> which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>>> everyones mail...
>>>
>>> jared
>>
>>
>
> 
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Cliff
1/2/2010 6:36:57 PM
"Cliff Galiher" <cgaliher@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:umrIXq9iKHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Interesting.  I actually will voice a difference of opinion with 
> SuperGumby here.  Specifically, I see three distinct advantages between a 
> pop3 setup and moving all mail in-house.
>
> 1) Centralized user administration.  With pop3, there are two user 
> accounts for some of your users.  One at the ISP, and one on your SBS 
> server.  That is two accounts to troubleshoot when there are problems. 
> Two places where passwords can be wrong.  Two places where you can blame 
> the the ISP when there are problems and they can blame you.  Even for the 
> off-site users that may not have an SBS account, the ISP account they have 
> is, primarily, outside of your control.....but as the IT person, still 
> within your responsibility.  I don't know about you, but I'm far more 
> UNcomfortable being responsible for something I can't control than I would 
> be about having more users.
>
> 2) Centralized backups.  Russ touched on this, but by moving email 
> in-house, you now have everyone on the same platform with the same level 
> of protection.  No longer can an employee say "I sent that file as a PDF 
> last week!   The ISP must've lost it!"  You now manage their email.  That 
> includes backups, but also means you have the full suite of 
> troubleshooting, message tracking, and auditing at your disposal.
>
> 3) From a user perspective, they gain the full advantage of exchange, not 
> just messaging.  That includes calendars, appointments, task lists, etc. 
> Maybe they already use a BCM for this, but this still is the difference 
> between them using some random 3rd-party product to fill in the gaps....a 
> product you may not know about, have control over, or be expected to 
> support, and having everyone on the same page.  Or...to look at it another 
> way, you lose the disadvantages of pop3.  Lack of BCC leaps to mind 
> (regardless of the type of pop3 connector used) and the other inherent 
> limitations of the pop3 protocol make it less than ideal in a 
> mail-forwarding environment.
>
> Anyways, those are my thoughts,
>
> -Cliff
>
>

I just wanted to add, that if the company handles sensitive emails, POP3 
setups have always worried me because emails flow through someone else's 
system. No security there, and it doesn't bode well with discovery and other 
legal implications.

-- 
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Ace
1/2/2010 11:42:52 PM
I appreciate all of the replies to this thread - i am leaning towards
having it all inhouse for the benifit of having control over it and i
- personally (and this is kind of a silly reason) i like when someone
sends an e-mail we don't have to wait for it to "pop" through which
can take up to 5 minutes...i know i can reduce those settings, but it
isn't suggested to reduce them very much incase it starts multiple
sessions over the top of each other...

But, one thing i am worried about is the fact that our mailbox size is
quite large as it is...10 years of 25 users accumilating has taken its
toll...right now the size is:

priv1.edb: 45 gig
priv1.stm: 33 gig

So, bringing on 10 more users shouldn't push us over the limit (unless
the limit is the two combined have to be under 75 gig?  then we are
over for sure...) - but i don't want to be stressed over it...we
e-mail a lot of larger illustrator files to clients so that is why our
messaging system is so large...i'm setting up a webservice for this to
cut down on things, but until then who knows...

I'm sure i can "archive" off a lot of it, but like the idea of having
access to older mail and searching it, etc. and don't know an easy way
to do that - maybe 2008 has something?

jared

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:25:56 -0700, Jaredean <shop@prolook.com> wrote:

>Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>
>Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>everyones mail...
>
>jared
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Jaredean
1/6/2010 8:39:01 PM
Yes it's 75 GB combined for those 2 files so you are theoretically already 
over the limit. I think you need to take some immediate steps to reduce the 
size. Exchange 2007 in SBS 2008 doesn't have the 75 GB limit, but still for 
a small business with only 25 users that is a lot of mail to deal with.

"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
news:7sk9k5h1ujopjl72eeksrv1obo34dm0gj8@4ax.com...
>I appreciate all of the replies to this thread - i am leaning towards
> having it all inhouse for the benifit of having control over it and i
> - personally (and this is kind of a silly reason) i like when someone
> sends an e-mail we don't have to wait for it to "pop" through which
> can take up to 5 minutes...i know i can reduce those settings, but it
> isn't suggested to reduce them very much incase it starts multiple
> sessions over the top of each other...
>
> But, one thing i am worried about is the fact that our mailbox size is
> quite large as it is...10 years of 25 users accumilating has taken its
> toll...right now the size is:
>
> priv1.edb: 45 gig
> priv1.stm: 33 gig
>
> So, bringing on 10 more users shouldn't push us over the limit (unless
> the limit is the two combined have to be under 75 gig?  then we are
> over for sure...) - but i don't want to be stressed over it...we
> e-mail a lot of larger illustrator files to clients so that is why our
> messaging system is so large...i'm setting up a webservice for this to
> cut down on things, but until then who knows...
>
> I'm sure i can "archive" off a lot of it, but like the idea of having
> access to older mail and searching it, etc. and don't know an easy way
> to do that - maybe 2008 has something?
>
> jared
>
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:25:56 -0700, Jaredean <shop@prolook.com> wrote:
>
>>Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>>reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>>here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>>I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>>remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>
>>Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>>as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>>want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>>a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>>mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>>am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>>which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>>everyones mail...
>>
>>jared 


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SteveB
1/6/2010 10:30:33 PM
Could there be some space that needs "compressed"?  I removed a lot of
users mail that are no longer employeed here and thought it should
have reduced the file side, but i'm not seeing much reduction...

jared

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:30:33 -0800, "SteveB" <newsgroup@public.lan>
wrote:

>Yes it's 75 GB combined for those 2 files so you are theoretically already 
>over the limit. I think you need to take some immediate steps to reduce the 
>size. Exchange 2007 in SBS 2008 doesn't have the 75 GB limit, but still for 
>a small business with only 25 users that is a lot of mail to deal with.
>
>"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
>news:7sk9k5h1ujopjl72eeksrv1obo34dm0gj8@4ax.com...
>>I appreciate all of the replies to this thread - i am leaning towards
>> having it all inhouse for the benifit of having control over it and i
>> - personally (and this is kind of a silly reason) i like when someone
>> sends an e-mail we don't have to wait for it to "pop" through which
>> can take up to 5 minutes...i know i can reduce those settings, but it
>> isn't suggested to reduce them very much incase it starts multiple
>> sessions over the top of each other...
>>
>> But, one thing i am worried about is the fact that our mailbox size is
>> quite large as it is...10 years of 25 users accumilating has taken its
>> toll...right now the size is:
>>
>> priv1.edb: 45 gig
>> priv1.stm: 33 gig
>>
>> So, bringing on 10 more users shouldn't push us over the limit (unless
>> the limit is the two combined have to be under 75 gig?  then we are
>> over for sure...) - but i don't want to be stressed over it...we
>> e-mail a lot of larger illustrator files to clients so that is why our
>> messaging system is so large...i'm setting up a webservice for this to
>> cut down on things, but until then who knows...
>>
>> I'm sure i can "archive" off a lot of it, but like the idea of having
>> access to older mail and searching it, etc. and don't know an easy way
>> to do that - maybe 2008 has something?
>>
>> jared
>>
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:25:56 -0700, Jaredean <shop@prolook.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>>>reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>>>here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>>>I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>>>remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>>
>>>Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>>>as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>>>want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>>>a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>>>mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>>>am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>>>which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>>>everyones mail...
>>>
>>>jared 
>
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Jaredean
1/7/2010 3:04:19 AM
Did you perform a offline defrag of exchange?
Russ

-- 
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com


"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
news:6ojak5hldp2qoogprtauq4sm3u4k0jb3tq@4ax.com...
> Could there be some space that needs "compressed"?  I removed a lot of
> users mail that are no longer employeed here and thought it should
> have reduced the file side, but i'm not seeing much reduction...
>
> jared
>
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:30:33 -0800, "SteveB" <newsgroup@public.lan>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes it's 75 GB combined for those 2 files so you are theoretically already
>>over the limit. I think you need to take some immediate steps to reduce 
>>the
>>size. Exchange 2007 in SBS 2008 doesn't have the 75 GB limit, but still 
>>for
>>a small business with only 25 users that is a lot of mail to deal with.
>>
>>"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message
>>news:7sk9k5h1ujopjl72eeksrv1obo34dm0gj8@4ax.com...
>>>I appreciate all of the replies to this thread - i am leaning towards
>>> having it all inhouse for the benifit of having control over it and i
>>> - personally (and this is kind of a silly reason) i like when someone
>>> sends an e-mail we don't have to wait for it to "pop" through which
>>> can take up to 5 minutes...i know i can reduce those settings, but it
>>> isn't suggested to reduce them very much incase it starts multiple
>>> sessions over the top of each other...
>>>
>>> But, one thing i am worried about is the fact that our mailbox size is
>>> quite large as it is...10 years of 25 users accumilating has taken its
>>> toll...right now the size is:
>>>
>>> priv1.edb: 45 gig
>>> priv1.stm: 33 gig
>>>
>>> So, bringing on 10 more users shouldn't push us over the limit (unless
>>> the limit is the two combined have to be under 75 gig?  then we are
>>> over for sure...) - but i don't want to be stressed over it...we
>>> e-mail a lot of larger illustrator files to clients so that is why our
>>> messaging system is so large...i'm setting up a webservice for this to
>>> cut down on things, but until then who knows...
>>>
>>> I'm sure i can "archive" off a lot of it, but like the idea of having
>>> access to older mail and searching it, etc. and don't know an easy way
>>> to do that - maybe 2008 has something?
>>>
>>> jared
>>>
>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:25:56 -0700, Jaredean <shop@prolook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>>>>reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>>>>here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>>>>I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>>>>remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>>>
>>>>Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>>>>as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>>>>want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>>>>a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>>>>mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>>>>am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>>>>which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>>>>everyones mail...
>>>>
>>>>jared
>> 
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Russ
1/7/2010 3:13:56 AM
Here is some instructions
http://www.petri.co.il/defragment_exchange_2000_2003_server_databases.htm
Russ

-- 
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com


"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message 
news:#2j4zd0jKHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Did you perform a offline defrag of exchange?
> Russ
>
> -- 
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
> World Wide 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
> Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com
>
>
> "Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message 
> news:6ojak5hldp2qoogprtauq4sm3u4k0jb3tq@4ax.com...
>> Could there be some space that needs "compressed"?  I removed a lot of
>> users mail that are no longer employeed here and thought it should
>> have reduced the file side, but i'm not seeing much reduction...
>>
>> jared
>>
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:30:33 -0800, "SteveB" <newsgroup@public.lan>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes it's 75 GB combined for those 2 files so you are theoretically 
>>>already
>>>over the limit. I think you need to take some immediate steps to reduce 
>>>the
>>>size. Exchange 2007 in SBS 2008 doesn't have the 75 GB limit, but still 
>>>for
>>>a small business with only 25 users that is a lot of mail to deal with.
>>>
>>>"Jaredean" <shop@prolook.com> wrote in message
>>>news:7sk9k5h1ujopjl72eeksrv1obo34dm0gj8@4ax.com...
>>>>I appreciate all of the replies to this thread - i am leaning towards
>>>> having it all inhouse for the benifit of having control over it and i
>>>> - personally (and this is kind of a silly reason) i like when someone
>>>> sends an e-mail we don't have to wait for it to "pop" through which
>>>> can take up to 5 minutes...i know i can reduce those settings, but it
>>>> isn't suggested to reduce them very much incase it starts multiple
>>>> sessions over the top of each other...
>>>>
>>>> But, one thing i am worried about is the fact that our mailbox size is
>>>> quite large as it is...10 years of 25 users accumilating has taken its
>>>> toll...right now the size is:
>>>>
>>>> priv1.edb: 45 gig
>>>> priv1.stm: 33 gig
>>>>
>>>> So, bringing on 10 more users shouldn't push us over the limit (unless
>>>> the limit is the two combined have to be under 75 gig?  then we are
>>>> over for sure...) - but i don't want to be stressed over it...we
>>>> e-mail a lot of larger illustrator files to clients so that is why our
>>>> messaging system is so large...i'm setting up a webservice for this to
>>>> cut down on things, but until then who knows...
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure i can "archive" off a lot of it, but like the idea of having
>>>> access to older mail and searching it, etc. and don't know an easy way
>>>> to do that - maybe 2008 has something?
>>>>
>>>> jared
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:25:56 -0700, Jaredean <shop@prolook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Up to this point i've used SBS 2003 with POP3 (using Popbeamer)...the
>>>>>reason i chose this from the get go was because we have about 15 users
>>>>>here on site and about another 20 that are scattered across the globe.
>>>>>I didn't want to be in charge of mail for those that weren't here
>>>>>remotely, so figured just using the POP3 route was the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, i'm preparing to move to SBS 2008 and REALLY want to set it up
>>>>>as a true Exchange server hosing the mail.  But, again, am not sure i
>>>>>want to deal with the other 20 users if i don't have to.  So, is there
>>>>>a way to set up Exchange for here in the office only, but have other
>>>>>mailboxes go to our host (CrystalTech) so they can use POP mail?  Or
>>>>>am I too concerned for no reason?  We do have a VERY large Exchange -
>>>>>which is another concern - bumping into the 75 gig size limit with
>>>>>everyones mail...
>>>>>
>>>>>jared
>>> 
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Russ
1/7/2010 3:16:18 AM
Thanks Russ, i did that years ago but haven't recently...

jared


On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:16:18 -0800, "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]"
<russ@REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote:

>Here is some instructions
>http://www.petri.co.il/defragment_exchange_2000_2003_server_databases.htm
>Russ
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Jaredean
1/7/2010 4:31:43 AM
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