Update picture changes wrap points, Pub 2002 & 03

I have struggled with this problem for six months. Whenever I update a
graphic in Pub 2002 or 03beta2, any custom wrap points are erased. It is
interesting to note the transparency setting used via the "Magic Wand" will
be the same, and the default wrap settings are the same. E.g. White is still
transparent, and Tight is still Tight, but the one wrap point I moved to
generate white space between the girl's hair and the text defaults to Tight.

This behavior was not evident in Pub 2000, which I have used for two years.
Someone suggested reclicking Text Wrapping and reselecting Tight, and
clicking No to Rest Wrap Boudary? I tried this. It doesn't work.

I can give step by step instructions to recreate this problem, and also to
acheive the desired results in Pub 2000 if necessary.

This is my one gripe with Publisher. IMO, it is the only area that it fails
Quark Xpress out of box. (I couldn't afford the plug-ins for Quark, which
might make a difference.)

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I am going to follow up for you on this.

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"The Rock" <singing_i_go@att.net> wrote in message
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> I have struggled with this problem for six months. Whenever I update a
> graphic in Pub 2002 or 03beta2, any custom wrap points are erased. It is
> interesting to note the transparency setting used via the "Magic Wand"
will
> be the same, and the default wrap settings are the same. E.g. White is
still
> transparent, and Tight is still Tight, but the one wrap point I moved to
> generate white space between the girl's hair and the text defaults to
Tight.
>
> This behavior was not evident in Pub 2000, which I have used for two
years.
> Someone suggested reclicking Text Wrapping and reselecting Tight, and
> clicking No to Rest Wrap Boudary? I tried this. It doesn't work.
>
> I can give step by step instructions to recreate this problem, and also to
> acheive the desired results in Pub 2000 if necessary.
>
> This is my one gripe with Publisher. IMO, it is the only area that it
fails
> Quark Xpress out of box. (I couldn't afford the plug-ins for Quark, which
> might make a difference.)
>
> --
> J.D. Rocke
> singing_i_go@att.net
>
> Remove the spaces (_) in the username to reply.
>
>


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publisher (1244)
7/2/2003 2:25:12 AM
Whilst attempting to develop brick-based storage technology, Ed reads a
message from ���M�S��Publisher��� <replytonewsgroup@goaway.com>
> The Escher drawing tools
> introduced in Publisher 2002 are the biggest load of faulty trash
> buggy junk introduced in Publisher 2002.
Which is why they have been such a roaring success in Word and PowerPoint
since Version 97 (8)

> Will be interesting to see
> if they have left this same buggy junk in Publisher 2003.
Escher isn't going from Publisher until it goes from the rest of Office.
And that could take some time yet.

-- 
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/
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the_nerd (6343)
7/2/2003 7:44:58 AM
Ed you obviously do not use the tools, or use them in such a limited fashion
you have no idea about all the faults and bugs in Pub 2002.

They don't even function correctly on basic *.WMF files.
-- 



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7/2/2003 11:31:56 AM
Ed I gave up with the faulty garbage after I realised what a disaster the
Escher drawing tools were.

I went back to using the superior product that MS removed from Publisher
2000 - MS Draw 1.01

I will try Publisher 2003 and see how they go.  It will be interesting to
see if they improved and fixed all the bugs.

-- 



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7/2/2003 1:03:15 PM
Whilst attempting to develop brick-based storage technology, Ed reads a
message from ���M�S��Publisher��� <replytonewsgroup@goaway.com>
> Ed I gave up with the faulty garbage after I realised what a disaster
> the Escher drawing tools were.

So you can't actually tell me what's wrong with it, just that it's bad.
How is it supposed to be improved if Microsoft don't know what's wrong with
it?
Or alternatively, how is it supposed to be replaced with something good if
Microsoft don't know what to look for? (And please DON'T say that Draw 1.01
needs to be put back in, because I and most people I have talked to hated
that product.  It was so Windows 3.1ish)

-- 
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/
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http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm


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the_nerd (6343)
7/2/2003 1:38:57 PM
Whilst attempting to develop brick-based storage technology, Ed reads a
message from ���M�S��Publisher��� <replytonewsgroup@goaway.com>
> Well actually, Draw 1.0 was the ultimate product as it had fully
> variable dot screens.  Who cares if it was Win 3.1ish, it was a
> quality product, that gave no problems, has great features and
> works!!!
List the features!!  List the features!!
I mean, I prefer the featureset in Escher 2002 by far - gradients,
semitransparency, textures, customisable AutoShapes, and the ability to copy
and paste Word drawings in without turning them into uneditable graphics.

> Go and dig up in the archives the Pub 2002 Beta newsgroups and you
> will find out all you need to know what did not work.
I don't have access to these.

-- 
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/
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the_nerd (6343)
7/2/2003 1:49:14 PM
Ed, I can tell you one thing, just playing around in Pub2003, it appears to
work better than 2002.  Pictures I could not get to function in 2002, opened
in 2003 function.

-- 



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7/2/2003 2:50:21 PM
It is the same in Pub2003 fully refreshed at the Office Update Website.

The custom wrap points are erased.

-- 



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7/3/2003 1:51:57 AM
Rock,

Can you email me directly on this? publisher@mvps.org with a sample file
that has the problem.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
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http://www.kvalheim.org

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"The Rock" <singing_i_go@att.net> wrote in message
news:OInYa7BQDHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I have struggled with this problem for six months. Whenever I update a
> graphic in Pub 2002 or 03beta2, any custom wrap points are erased. It is
> interesting to note the transparency setting used via the "Magic Wand"
will
> be the same, and the default wrap settings are the same. E.g. White is
still
> transparent, and Tight is still Tight, but the one wrap point I moved to
> generate white space between the girl's hair and the text defaults to
Tight.
>
> This behavior was not evident in Pub 2000, which I have used for two
years.
> Someone suggested reclicking Text Wrapping and reselecting Tight, and
> clicking No to Rest Wrap Boudary? I tried this. It doesn't work.
>
> I can give step by step instructions to recreate this problem, and also to
> acheive the desired results in Pub 2000 if necessary.
>
> This is my one gripe with Publisher. IMO, it is the only area that it
fails
> Quark Xpress out of box. (I couldn't afford the plug-ins for Quark, which
> might make a difference.)
>
> --
> J.D. Rocke
> singing_i_go@att.net
>
> Remove the spaces (_) in the username to reply.
>
>


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publisher (1244)
7/3/2003 2:22:09 AM
Brian just create it, as he could not send a sample file to demonstrate the
problem, only screen captures.

For example if you take a WordArt, copy it to the Clipboard, go to menu Edit
> Paste Special, Paste as Picture, change wrap boundaries, change options
and wrap boundaries - are gone - like magic.

-- 



0
7/3/2003 2:54:14 AM
Cool, Thanks!

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
For FAQ's, Templates and More:
http://www.kvalheim.org

Activewin Staff Management
www.activewin.com


"���M�S��Publisher���" <replytonewsgroup@goaway.com> wrote in message
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> I will take some screen shots to demonstrate this with the actions and
> e-mail them to you later today.
>
> --
>
>


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publisher (1244)
7/3/2003 11:40:23 AM
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