outgoing failure and non-delivery messages from SMTP server..

Hi there,

I have one machine that I use sparingly as a mass email server.

Of the thousand or so emails that go out from that machine once a month, a
couple of hundred of them are bound to be wrong or changed email addresses.

The SMTP server sends out "Delivery Status Notification (Delay)" and
"Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" messages, soon after the intial
sending of the mass emails.

However, when I turn off the SMTP server, or keep the machine off for a few
days, then I don't get any of those failure/non-delivery messages.  But as
soon as I turn on the machine with the SMTP server turned on, it spits out
these failure/non-delivery messages by the hundreds.

What can I do to stop the notification messages from happening?

Thanks,

Gordon


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gords (18)
7/13/2005 12:39:28 AM
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In news:%23crp%23L0hFHA.1460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca> typed:
> Hi there,
>
> I have one machine that I use sparingly as a mass email server.
>
> Of the thousand or so emails that go out from that machine once a
> month, a couple of hundred of them are bound to be wrong or changed
> email addresses.
>
> The SMTP server sends out "Delivery Status Notification (Delay)" and
> "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" messages, soon after the
> intial sending of the mass emails.
>
> However, when I turn off the SMTP server, or keep the machine off for
> a few days, then I don't get any of those failure/non-delivery
> messages.  But as soon as I turn on the machine with the SMTP server
> turned on, it spits out these failure/non-delivery messages by the
> hundreds.
>
> What can I do to stop the notification messages from happening?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gordon

Disable NDRs - or get something like Lyris/Majordomo that can handle this 
more gracefully. I'd go for the latter, if you need thousand-odd-recipient 
mass mailings... 


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lanwench (7567)
7/13/2005 1:39:50 AM
Hi Lawrence,

I can't see where to disable the NDR's....

Any ideas?

Gordon

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:um4TIz0hFHA.3012@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>
> In news:%23crp%23L0hFHA.1460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca> typed:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have one machine that I use sparingly as a mass email server.
> >
> > Of the thousand or so emails that go out from that machine once a
> > month, a couple of hundred of them are bound to be wrong or changed
> > email addresses.
> >
> > The SMTP server sends out "Delivery Status Notification (Delay)" and
> > "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" messages, soon after the
> > intial sending of the mass emails.
> >
> > However, when I turn off the SMTP server, or keep the machine off for
> > a few days, then I don't get any of those failure/non-delivery
> > messages.  But as soon as I turn on the machine with the SMTP server
> > turned on, it spits out these failure/non-delivery messages by the
> > hundreds.
> >
> > What can I do to stop the notification messages from happening?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gordon
>
> Disable NDRs - or get something like Lyris/Majordomo that can handle this
> more gracefully. I'd go for the latter, if you need thousand-odd-recipient
> mass mailings...
>
>


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gords (18)
7/15/2005 11:44:29 PM
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:44:29 -1000, Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca>  
wrote:

Actually that's "Lanwench" but where you turn off NDR's will depend upon  
what kind of server you're using.  Is it an Exchange Server?  Sendmail?   
Other?


> Hi Lawrence,
>
> I can't see where to disable the NDR's....
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Gordon
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in  
> message
> news:um4TIz0hFHA.3012@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> In news:%23crp%23L0hFHA.1460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
>> Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca> typed:
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I have one machine that I use sparingly as a mass email server.
>> >
>> > Of the thousand or so emails that go out from that machine once a
>> > month, a couple of hundred of them are bound to be wrong or changed
>> > email addresses.
>> >
>> > The SMTP server sends out "Delivery Status Notification (Delay)" and
>> > "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" messages, soon after the
>> > intial sending of the mass emails.
>> >
>> > However, when I turn off the SMTP server, or keep the machine off for
>> > a few days, then I don't get any of those failure/non-delivery
>> > messages.  But as soon as I turn on the machine with the SMTP server
>> > turned on, it spits out these failure/non-delivery messages by the
>> > hundreds.
>> >
>> > What can I do to stop the notification messages from happening?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Gordon
>>
>> Disable NDRs - or get something like Lyris/Majordomo that can handle  
>> this
>> more gracefully. I'd go for the latter, if you need  
>> thousand-odd-recipient
>> mass mailings...
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft Outlook FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/outlook.htm
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bens1 (1425)
7/16/2005 1:30:07 AM
Hi Lanwrench!

So, yeah, it's the SMTP server that comes with XP Pro.... I can't find
anywhere to turn off the NDR's....

Thanks,

Gordon


"Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
news:op.stzfshm06r4cx1@bms-tablet2.scgab.com...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:44:29 -1000, Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Actually that's "Lanwench" but where you turn off NDR's will depend upon
> what kind of server you're using.  Is it an Exchange Server?  Sendmail?
> Other?
>
>
> > Hi Lawrence,
> >
> > I can't see where to disable the NDR's....
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> > message
> > news:um4TIz0hFHA.3012@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >> In news:%23crp%23L0hFHA.1460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> >> Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca> typed:
> >> > Hi there,
> >> >
> >> > I have one machine that I use sparingly as a mass email server.
> >> >
> >> > Of the thousand or so emails that go out from that machine once a
> >> > month, a couple of hundred of them are bound to be wrong or changed
> >> > email addresses.
> >> >
> >> > The SMTP server sends out "Delivery Status Notification (Delay)" and
> >> > "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" messages, soon after the
> >> > intial sending of the mass emails.
> >> >
> >> > However, when I turn off the SMTP server, or keep the machine off for
> >> > a few days, then I don't get any of those failure/non-delivery
> >> > messages.  But as soon as I turn on the machine with the SMTP server
> >> > turned on, it spits out these failure/non-delivery messages by the
> >> > hundreds.
> >> >
> >> > What can I do to stop the notification messages from happening?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Gordon
> >>
> >> Disable NDRs - or get something like Lyris/Majordomo that can handle
> >> this
> >> more gracefully. I'd go for the latter, if you need
> >> thousand-odd-recipient
> >> mass mailings...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> -- 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
> Operations Coordinator
> Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
> Microsoft Outlook FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/outlook.htm


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gords (18)
7/18/2005 7:37:45 PM

In news:%23I5$U$8iFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca> typed:
> Hi Lanwrench!
>
> So, yeah, it's the SMTP server that comes with XP Pro.... I can't find
> anywhere to turn off the NDR's....

That's an IIS thing - I don't know if it's even possible - it's not very 
configurable.

The SMTP server isn't really part of the OS. Try a group for IIS.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Gordon
>
>
> "Ben M. Schorr - MVP" <bens@bogusaddress.mvp> wrote in message
> news:op.stzfshm06r4cx1@bms-tablet2.scgab.com...
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:44:29 -1000, Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Actually that's "Lanwench" but where you turn off NDR's will depend
>> upon what kind of server you're using.  Is it an Exchange Server?
>> Sendmail? Other?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Lawrence,
>>>
>>> I can't see where to disable the NDR's....
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Gordon
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:um4TIz0hFHA.3012@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In news:%23crp%23L0hFHA.1460@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
>>>> Gordon J. Rattray <gords@shaw.ca> typed:
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have one machine that I use sparingly as a mass email server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of the thousand or so emails that go out from that machine once a
>>>>> month, a couple of hundred of them are bound to be wrong or
>>>>> changed email addresses.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SMTP server sends out "Delivery Status Notification (Delay)"
>>>>> and "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" messages, soon after
>>>>> the intial sending of the mass emails.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, when I turn off the SMTP server, or keep the machine off
>>>>> for a few days, then I don't get any of those failure/non-delivery
>>>>> messages.  But as soon as I turn on the machine with the SMTP
>>>>> server turned on, it spits out these failure/non-delivery
>>>>> messages by the hundreds.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can I do to stop the notification messages from happening?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gordon
>>>>
>>>> Disable NDRs - or get something like Lyris/Majordomo that can
>>>> handle this
>>>> more gracefully. I'd go for the latter, if you need
>>>> thousand-odd-recipient
>>>> mass mailings...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -Ben-
>> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
>> Operations Coordinator
>> Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
>> Microsoft Outlook FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/outlook.htm 


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lanwench (7567)
7/19/2005 3:05:46 AM
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