Safe Pay Check Amount Problem

I am trying to setup Safe Pay.  Everything seems to be working fine except 
for one annoying quirk.  Our bank's Positive Pay data format gives us 12 
characters for check amounts ($$$$$$$$$$¢¢).  The file that Safe Pay 
generates is working perfectly except for those checks that are greater than 
$9,999,999.99 (9 characters).  If the check amount is greater than that (say 
$10,000,000.00), the value that the Safe Pay file shows for that check is 
002147483647.  And, even if none of the individual checks exceed 
$9,999,999.99, if the total of the checks in the batch exceeds that amount 
then the Safe Pay file again uses 002147483647 as the value for the total $ 
amount for the checks in the batch.

Is there some kind of general problem with Safe Pay handling checks with 
amounts greater than $9,999,999.99 or is there just something wrong with my 
setup?  I don't really think it is the setup since it works just fine on 
smaller checks.

I don't really think that I will often have individual checks greater than  
$9,999,999.99 but I could conceivably have batches greater than that.

Help!

Thanks!

Paul
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After some further experimentation, I have determined that the magic number 
is not necessarily $10,000,000.00.  Here is a bit of a summary of the 
craziness:

Batch #1 had 4 checks totaling $64,454,757.06.  The Positive Pay 
Transactions Upload file showed this information correctly under Checkbooks 
Total but under Transactions Summary it showed a Checks Total of 
“$21474836.47” which seems to be a totally random number as far as I can 
tell.  The actual text file generated by Safe Pay shows this $21474836.47 as 
the total $ amount of the checks in the batch and also replaces one of the 
check amounts with the same $21474836.47.

Batch #2 with 4 checks totaling $137,160,492.58 had the exact same results.  
Same exact $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks total.  Same 
exact $21474836.47 replaced one of the check amounts.

Batch #3 with 1 $9,999,999.99 check and Batch #4 with 1 $10,000,000.00 check 
both worked just fine.

Batch #5 with 2 checks totaling $50,000,000.00 went back to the same stupid 
$21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks total and in place of one of 
the check results.

I am not sure if there is a threshold batch total that causes this problem 
or not.

The craziest part might be the fact that one of the check amounts always 
gets replaced by this weird amount.

Any help or insight would be appreciated.  I need to get Safe Pay / Positive 
Pay running soon and need to complete file testing with our bank.

Thanks!

============================

"Paul Steiner" wrote:

I am trying to setup Safe Pay.  Everything seems to be working fine except 
for one annoying quirk.  Our bank's Positive Pay data format gives us 12 
characters for check amounts ($$$$$$$$$$¢¢).  The file that Safe Pay 
generates is working perfectly except for those checks that are greater than 
$9,999,999.99 (9 characters).  If the check amount is greater than that (say 
$10,000,000.00), the value that the Safe Pay file shows for that check is 
002147483647.  And, even if none of the individual checks exceed 
$9,999,999.99, if the total of the checks in the batch exceeds that amount 
then the Safe Pay file again uses 002147483647 as the value for the total $ 
amount for the checks in the batch.

Is there some kind of general problem with Safe Pay handling checks with 
amounts greater than $9,999,999.99 or is there just something wrong with my 
setup?  I don't really think it is the setup since it works just fine on 
smaller checks.

I don't really think that I will often have individual checks greater than 
$9,999,999.99 but I could conceivably have batches greater than that.

Help!

Thanks!

Paul
0
6/15/2007 4:17:00 PM
2147483647 is the max number for the long integer type.  I'm sure it
has something to do with this but don't know what.
-- 
Japheth Nolt
Microsoft SBF Specialist
Landis Computer
www.landiscomputer.com
6/15/2007 12:21:56 PM


Paul Steiner wrote:

> After some further experimentation, I have determined that the magic
> number is not necessarily $10,000,000.00.  Here is a bit of a summary
> of the craziness:
> 
> Batch #1 had 4 checks totaling $64,454,757.06.  The Positive Pay 
> Transactions Upload file showed this information correctly under
> Checkbooks Total but under Transactions Summary it showed a Checks
> Total of “$21474836.47” which seems to be a totally random number
> as far as I can tell.  The actual text file generated by Safe Pay
> shows this $21474836.47 as the total $ amount of the checks in the
> batch and also replaces one of the check amounts with the same
> $21474836.47.
> 
> Batch #2 with 4 checks totaling $137,160,492.58 had the exact same
> results.  Same exact $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks
> total.  Same exact $21474836.47 replaced one of the check amounts.
> 
> Batch #3 with 1 $9,999,999.99 check and Batch #4 with 1
> $10,000,000.00 check both worked just fine.
> 
> Batch #5 with 2 checks totaling $50,000,000.00 went back to the same
> stupid $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks total and in
> place of one of the check results.
> 
> I am not sure if there is a threshold batch total that causes this
> problem or not.
> 
> The craziest part might be the fact that one of the check amounts
> always gets replaced by this weird amount.
> 
> Any help or insight would be appreciated.  I need to get Safe Pay /
> Positive Pay running soon and need to complete file testing with our
> bank.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> ============================
> 
> "Paul Steiner" wrote:
> 
> I am trying to setup Safe Pay.  Everything seems to be working fine
> except for one annoying quirk.  Our bank's Positive Pay data format
> gives us 12 characters for check amounts ($$$$$$$$$$¢¢).  The file
> that Safe Pay generates is working perfectly except for those checks
> that are greater than $9,999,999.99 (9 characters).  If the check
> amount is greater than that (say $10,000,000.00), the value that the
> Safe Pay file shows for that check is 002147483647.  And, even if
> none of the individual checks exceed $9,999,999.99, if the total of
> the checks in the batch exceeds that amount then the Safe Pay file
> again uses 002147483647 as the value for the total $ amount for the
> checks in the batch.
> 
> Is there some kind of general problem with Safe Pay handling checks
> with amounts greater than $9,999,999.99 or is there just something
> wrong with my setup?  I don't really think it is the setup since it
> works just fine on smaller checks.
> 
> I don't really think that I will often have individual checks greater
> than $9,999,999.99 but I could conceivably have batches greater than
> that.
> 
> Help!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Paul
0
6/15/2007 4:22:40 PM
I think that you might be on to something.  If I enter "2147483647" into 
Google, it comes up with hundreds of bug reports, programming problems, etc., 
associated with that number.

Unfortunately, does not lead directly to a solution but maybe will help 
someone else to suggest a remedy.

Thanks!

"Japheth Nolt" wrote:

> 2147483647 is the max number for the long integer type.  I'm sure it
> has something to do with this but don't know what.
> -- 
> Japheth Nolt
> Microsoft SBF Specialist
> Landis Computer
> www.landiscomputer.com
> 6/15/2007 12:21:56 PM
> 
> 
> Paul Steiner wrote:
> 
> > After some further experimentation, I have determined that the magic
> > number is not necessarily $10,000,000.00.  Here is a bit of a summary
> > of the craziness:
> > 
> > Batch #1 had 4 checks totaling $64,454,757.06.  The Positive Pay 
> > Transactions Upload file showed this information correctly under
> > Checkbooks Total but under Transactions Summary it showed a Checks
> > Total of “$21474836.47” which seems to be a totally random number
> > as far as I can tell.  The actual text file generated by Safe Pay
> > shows this $21474836.47 as the total $ amount of the checks in the
> > batch and also replaces one of the check amounts with the same
> > $21474836.47.
> > 
> > Batch #2 with 4 checks totaling $137,160,492.58 had the exact same
> > results.  Same exact $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks
> > total.  Same exact $21474836.47 replaced one of the check amounts.
> > 
> > Batch #3 with 1 $9,999,999.99 check and Batch #4 with 1
> > $10,000,000.00 check both worked just fine.
> > 
> > Batch #5 with 2 checks totaling $50,000,000.00 went back to the same
> > stupid $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks total and in
> > place of one of the check results.
> > 
> > I am not sure if there is a threshold batch total that causes this
> > problem or not.
> > 
> > The craziest part might be the fact that one of the check amounts
> > always gets replaced by this weird amount.
> > 
> > Any help or insight would be appreciated.  I need to get Safe Pay /
> > Positive Pay running soon and need to complete file testing with our
> > bank.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > ============================
> > 
> > "Paul Steiner" wrote:
> > 
> > I am trying to setup Safe Pay.  Everything seems to be working fine
> > except for one annoying quirk.  Our bank's Positive Pay data format
> > gives us 12 characters for check amounts ($$$$$$$$$$¢¢).  The file
> > that Safe Pay generates is working perfectly except for those checks
> > that are greater than $9,999,999.99 (9 characters).  If the check
> > amount is greater than that (say $10,000,000.00), the value that the
> > Safe Pay file shows for that check is 002147483647.  And, even if
> > none of the individual checks exceed $9,999,999.99, if the total of
> > the checks in the batch exceeds that amount then the Safe Pay file
> > again uses 002147483647 as the value for the total $ amount for the
> > checks in the batch.
> > 
> > Is there some kind of general problem with Safe Pay handling checks
> > with amounts greater than $9,999,999.99 or is there just something
> > wrong with my setup?  I don't really think it is the setup since it
> > works just fine on smaller checks.
> > 
> > I don't really think that I will often have individual checks greater
> > than $9,999,999.99 but I could conceivably have batches greater than
> > that.
> > 
> > Help!
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Paul
> 
0
6/15/2007 4:38:02 PM
Ha, ha, on the lighter side, maybe we should knock a few zeros off of
our currency. ;-)
-- 
Japheth Nolt
Microsoft SBF Specialist
Landis Computer
www.landiscomputer.com
6/15/2007 1:33:15 PM


Paul Steiner wrote:

> I think that you might be on to something.  If I enter "2147483647"
> into Google, it comes up with hundreds of bug reports, programming
> problems, etc., associated with that number.
> 
> Unfortunately, does not lead directly to a solution but maybe will
> help someone else to suggest a remedy.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> "Japheth Nolt" wrote:
> 
> > 2147483647 is the max number for the long integer type.  I'm sure it
> > has something to do with this but don't know what.
> > -- 
> > Japheth Nolt
> > Microsoft SBF Specialist
> > Landis Computer
> > www.landiscomputer.com
> > 6/15/2007 12:21:56 PM
> > 
> > 
> > Paul Steiner wrote:
> > 
> > > After some further experimentation, I have determined that the
> > > magic number is not necessarily $10,000,000.00.  Here is a bit of
> > > a summary of the craziness:
> > > 
> > > Batch #1 had 4 checks totaling $64,454,757.06.  The Positive Pay 
> > > Transactions Upload file showed this information correctly under
> > > Checkbooks Total but under Transactions Summary it showed a Checks
> > > Total of “$21474836.47” which seems to be a totally random
> > > number as far as I can tell.  The actual text file generated by
> > > Safe Pay shows this $21474836.47 as the total $ amount of the
> > > checks in the batch and also replaces one of the check amounts
> > > with the same $21474836.47.
> > > 
> > > Batch #2 with 4 checks totaling $137,160,492.58 had the exact same
> > > results.  Same exact $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary
> > > checks total.  Same exact $21474836.47 replaced one of the check
> > > amounts.
> > > 
> > > Batch #3 with 1 $9,999,999.99 check and Batch #4 with 1
> > > $10,000,000.00 check both worked just fine.
> > > 
> > > Batch #5 with 2 checks totaling $50,000,000.00 went back to the
> > > same stupid $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks
> > > total and in place of one of the check results.
> > > 
> > > I am not sure if there is a threshold batch total that causes this
> > > problem or not.
> > > 
> > > The craziest part might be the fact that one of the check amounts
> > > always gets replaced by this weird amount.
> > > 
> > > Any help or insight would be appreciated.  I need to get Safe Pay
> > > / Positive Pay running soon and need to complete file testing
> > > with our bank.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > ============================
> > > 
> > > "Paul Steiner" wrote:
> > > 
> > > I am trying to setup Safe Pay.  Everything seems to be working
> > > fine except for one annoying quirk.  Our bank's Positive Pay data
> > > format gives us 12 characters for check amounts ($$$$$$$$$$¢¢).
> > > The file that Safe Pay generates is working perfectly except for
> > > those checks that are greater than $9,999,999.99 (9 characters).
> > > If the check amount is greater than that (say $10,000,000.00),
> > > the value that the Safe Pay file shows for that check is
> > > 002147483647.  And, even if none of the individual checks exceed
> > > $9,999,999.99, if the total of the checks in the batch exceeds
> > > that amount then the Safe Pay file again uses 002147483647 as the
> > > value for the total $ amount for the checks in the batch.
> > > 
> > > Is there some kind of general problem with Safe Pay handling
> > > checks with amounts greater than $9,999,999.99 or is there just
> > > something wrong with my setup?  I don't really think it is the
> > > setup since it works just fine on smaller checks.
> > > 
> > > I don't really think that I will often have individual checks
> > > greater than $9,999,999.99 but I could conceivably have batches
> > > greater than that.
> > > 
> > > Help!
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > 
0
6/15/2007 5:33:59 PM
Apparently this is a known bug problem.  Here is the response from Microsoft 
Dynamics GP support:

“This is a known issue which has been discovered in Great Plains 8.0. It is 
Bug ID 39165 - In Safe Pay Check Total is incorrect in Upload File and 
Uploaded Transactions Report when upload amount of over 21 million. 
Currently, the fix for this issue has not been released, but it is scheduled 
to be included with the release of Service Pack 3 for Great Plains 9.0 and 
fixed in 10.0 sp1.  The workaround (solution) as of the moment would be to 
edit the Safe Pay Upload file to indicate the correct check totals.”


"Japheth Nolt" wrote:

> Ha, ha, on the lighter side, maybe we should knock a few zeros off of
> our currency. ;-)
> -- 
> Japheth Nolt
> Microsoft SBF Specialist
> Landis Computer
> www.landiscomputer.com
> 6/15/2007 1:33:15 PM
> 
> 
> Paul Steiner wrote:
> 
> > I think that you might be on to something.  If I enter "2147483647"
> > into Google, it comes up with hundreds of bug reports, programming
> > problems, etc., associated with that number.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, does not lead directly to a solution but maybe will
> > help someone else to suggest a remedy.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > "Japheth Nolt" wrote:
> > 
> > > 2147483647 is the max number for the long integer type.  I'm sure it
> > > has something to do with this but don't know what.
> > > -- 
> > > Japheth Nolt
> > > Microsoft SBF Specialist
> > > Landis Computer
> > > www.landiscomputer.com
> > > 6/15/2007 12:21:56 PM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Paul Steiner wrote:
> > > 
> > > > After some further experimentation, I have determined that the
> > > > magic number is not necessarily $10,000,000.00.  Here is a bit of
> > > > a summary of the craziness:
> > > > 
> > > > Batch #1 had 4 checks totaling $64,454,757.06.  The Positive Pay 
> > > > Transactions Upload file showed this information correctly under
> > > > Checkbooks Total but under Transactions Summary it showed a Checks
> > > > Total of “$21474836.47” which seems to be a totally random
> > > > number as far as I can tell.  The actual text file generated by
> > > > Safe Pay shows this $21474836.47 as the total $ amount of the
> > > > checks in the batch and also replaces one of the check amounts
> > > > with the same $21474836.47.
> > > > 
> > > > Batch #2 with 4 checks totaling $137,160,492.58 had the exact same
> > > > results.  Same exact $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary
> > > > checks total.  Same exact $21474836.47 replaced one of the check
> > > > amounts.
> > > > 
> > > > Batch #3 with 1 $9,999,999.99 check and Batch #4 with 1
> > > > $10,000,000.00 check both worked just fine.
> > > > 
> > > > Batch #5 with 2 checks totaling $50,000,000.00 went back to the
> > > > same stupid $21474836.47 for the Transactions Summary checks
> > > > total and in place of one of the check results.
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure if there is a threshold batch total that causes this
> > > > problem or not.
> > > > 
> > > > The craziest part might be the fact that one of the check amounts
> > > > always gets replaced by this weird amount.
> > > > 
> > > > Any help or insight would be appreciated.  I need to get Safe Pay
> > > > / Positive Pay running soon and need to complete file testing
> > > > with our bank.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > ============================
> > > > 
> > > > "Paul Steiner" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I am trying to setup Safe Pay.  Everything seems to be working
> > > > fine except for one annoying quirk.  Our bank's Positive Pay data
> > > > format gives us 12 characters for check amounts ($$$$$$$$$$¢¢).
> > > > The file that Safe Pay generates is working perfectly except for
> > > > those checks that are greater than $9,999,999.99 (9 characters).
> > > > If the check amount is greater than that (say $10,000,000.00),
> > > > the value that the Safe Pay file shows for that check is
> > > > 002147483647.  And, even if none of the individual checks exceed
> > > > $9,999,999.99, if the total of the checks in the batch exceeds
> > > > that amount then the Safe Pay file again uses 002147483647 as the
> > > > value for the total $ amount for the checks in the batch.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there some kind of general problem with Safe Pay handling
> > > > checks with amounts greater than $9,999,999.99 or is there just
> > > > something wrong with my setup?  I don't really think it is the
> > > > setup since it works just fine on smaller checks.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't really think that I will often have individual checks
> > > > greater than $9,999,999.99 but I could conceivably have batches
> > > > greater than that.
> > > > 
> > > > Help!
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > > Paul
> > > 
> 
0
6/19/2007 1:23:03 PM
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Hello, All. I am having some trouble opening up Word. It was working okay until I loaded some fonts to FontBook. Okay, now I removed all my fonts but I still get this error message about corrupt fonts I have on my computer. When I open Word, I see the blue starting-up window: Word:Mac 2004. Right underneath the product ID #, I see that it is initiating... when it gets to the point "Optimizing font menu performance" I start getting this error windows popping up one after another. (E.g. The font M TimesSmallText is corrupt and should be removed.) I keep on clicking okay for a whole lot...

Money deluxe 2007 password problem
When I update my bank account transactions I get a message saying that my account was not updated because my password is incorrect. I then go into account info and have to update my password. I save the update, but then it happens again sporadically when I open Money at later times. Is there a way to fix this glitch? ...

Cash Receipts and Check book
Hi, This is regarding Cash Receipts in Sales Module of GP 10. The input screen for cash receipt has a field to enter the cheque book id. However upon posting receipts, the cheque book register does not get updated with the receipt amount. Surely, the GL account associated with the cheque book gets the debit, but not the check book register. Would appreciate advice, comments. Thanks CarlG Carl, The next step after entering a cash receipt is to deposit it in the Bank Rec module. Go to Transactions > Financial > Bank Deposits to do this. The reason for this is that the check...

printing problems with memorized reports
We have recently been running into printing problems with our memorized reports. We will print preview a report and it will look fine on screen, then we will send to the printer, and the report print extremely small in the corner of the page. However if we go back in and re-print the report then it will print normal size on the page. We are not making any settings changes at all, and when it does this appears to just be at random. We are printing to an HP laserjet 4000 series printer that is on our network. We've used RMS with the same configuration for approx. 5 years now and ...

Reports and sub-reports problems
Dear Sirs,I have a report with 4 sub-reports.How can it be that 2 sub-reports are showing the data triple.Can someone help?ThanksKlaus I just realized. It's not due to being a subreport - it's already showing on the normal report triple data. It was not before and I did not change anything. I hope that someone can help me.Thanks Klaus"Amateur" wrote:> Dear Sirs,> I have a report with 4 sub-reports.> How can it be that 2 sub-reports are showing the data triple.> Can someone help?> Thanks> Klaus...

connection problems
a popup saying internet explorer cannot diaplay webpage and it is a connection problem -- eummer2010 how does your problem/question pertain to windows update? terri wrote: > a popup saying internet explorer cannot diaplay webpage and it is a > connection problem Hello Terry, Would be nice if you could tell us more information, like what OS you're using, Service Pack, what other security software are you running, if any? etc. IE6 ? IE7 ? IE8 ? Repoяt problems and check for solutions automatically <http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/...

SQL Error when printing checks
I get the following error message when trying to print a check (for a temp vendor) [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Invalid column name 'mlcChkLyt'. Can anyone suggest a soulution, before I have to bring in a consultant. Thanks Kevin Had same problem. There is a hot fix for this. Check out KB Article # 933035. Thanks. Girish "Rob" wrote: > I get the following error message when trying to print a check (for a temp > vendor) > > [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Invalid column name > 'mlcChkLyt'. > > Can anyo...

There is a problem with your printer settings.
There is a problem with your printer settings. Your printer has given Publisher an invalid value, and the printer could not be correctly initialized. Check your printer settings in the Windows control panel." 1. I only have one network printer 2. The network printer is not the default printer 3. I have deleted the printer, rebooted and reinstalled the latest printer drivers. 4. The printer name is less than 8 characters long. ... any idea what the problem is??? -- kirks What version Publisher? Do you have the service packs? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.aspx?displaylan...

Automated starting of app
Hi NG, I don't know if this a problem special to MFC or something else. I work with XP and VC++ 6.0. I wrote a small dialog based app which can collect names of files and/or directories. I can start this app and select the files and directories with the usual common dialogs - works fine. I can also mark the files in the explorer and dragdrop them to the icon of the app. In this case I get the names as argv[n] and can fill the dialog with them while the program is starting. Works fine too. But when I select too many file names to dragdrop them to the icon, while the program starts I get the...

problem with dependency on atl71.dll
Hello, I have problem removing dependency on atl71.dll. I've tried these: defining /D "_ATL_STATIC_REGISTRY" and Properties->Config->General->UseOfATL : Static Link To ATL din't helped, still asking for missing dll when trying register my dll on Win2k. When I supply atl71.dll it's fine, but not sure if this is safe solution. can somebody advise on that? thanks Post this in ATL group instead (or atleast cross-post) --- Ajay ...