restoring exchange 2000 SBS stores to a differnt exchange box...

We are looking at dumping our SBS 2000 box and would like to set up a 
different win2K box with just the std version of exchange 2000 until such 
time as we can afford to upgrade to the newest version of exchange.

I need to get this up and running asap.Can I setup my new win2k server, 
running the regular version of exchange 2000 and then once setup restore my 
sbs exchange 2000 information stores to this new box running the regular 
version of exchange 2000??  Are the information stores in the sbs 2000 
version of exchange the same as the std version of exchange 2000 or will I 
run into issues simply restoring those information stores?

Thanks, Brad 


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I believe the database files are different but cannot recall what exactly is 
the difference, you might post to SBS newsgroup for clarification.  If you 
have a small amount of users I would suggest using Exmerge.exe to export 
user mailboxes to PST files.

-- 
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2009
Microsoft Certified Partner


"Brad Pears" <bradp@truenorthloghomes.com> wrote in message 
news:OCAmFQDtKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> We are looking at dumping our SBS 2000 box and would like to set up a 
> different win2K box with just the std version of exchange 2000 until such 
> time as we can afford to upgrade to the newest version of exchange.
>
> I need to get this up and running asap.Can I setup my new win2k server, 
> running the regular version of exchange 2000 and then once setup restore 
> my sbs exchange 2000 information stores to this new box running the 
> regular version of exchange 2000??  Are the information stores in the sbs 
> 2000 version of exchange the same as the std version of exchange 2000 or 
> will I run into issues simply restoring those information stores?
>
> Thanks, Brad
> 
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John
2/23/2010 3:10:54 AM
Technically, it may be possible.

However, it may not be legal as you will not be licensed for that Exchange 
server because your SBS CALs currently cover your Exchange CAL requirement. 
The provision to legally extend SBS CALs to additional Exchange servers on 
the network was added beginning with SBS 2003 R2 and it was one of key 
release points of the R2. Besides, the cost to license standalone Exchange 
server software exceeds the cost of SBS 2008.

My recommendation?

Disconnect SBS 2000 from the network
Backup the server with NTBACKUP.
Start setting up new copy of SBS 2000 on a modern 64-bit hardware box. I 
bought a Dell 6800 quad-Xeon with 16GB RAM for less than $500, so they are 
very cheap nowdays on the used market. Get it to the point where the OS is 
running, but don't bother installing SBS components.
Restore the backup.
Reconnect the newly rebuilt box to the network.

This lets you keep using what you have now legally (unless the original 
license was an OEM one, but who really cares 10 years later...) on new 
hardware without any extra headaches.

You can then upgrade this to SBS 2008, which includes Exchange 2007, at your 
leisure. This will be the most cost-effective approach. If you have specific 
questions about SBS, post them in microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs :)

To answer your question about stores compatibility, yes the Exchange server 
included with SBS is not crippled in any way.
-- 
Leonid S. Knyshov
Crashproof Solutions
510-282-1008
Twitter: @wiseleo
http://crashproofsolutions.com
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
Please vote "helpful" if I helped you :)


"Brad Pears" wrote:

> We are looking at dumping our SBS 2000 box and would like to set up a 
> different win2K box with just the std version of exchange 2000 until such 
> time as we can afford to upgrade to the newest version of exchange.
> 
> I need to get this up and running asap.Can I setup my new win2k server, 
> running the regular version of exchange 2000 and then once setup restore my 
> sbs exchange 2000 information stores to this new box running the regular 
> version of exchange 2000??  Are the information stores in the sbs 2000 
> version of exchange the same as the std version of exchange 2000 or will I 
> run into issues simply restoring those information stores?
> 
> Thanks, Brad 
> 
> 
> .
> 
0
Utf
2/23/2010 11:32:06 AM
We have close to 75 mailboxes. The total Exchange database size is less than 
16gb (that's the SBS 2000 limit anyway) so that may be doable but would 
likely be a bit of a pain in the rump - unless you can use exmerge to do 
multiple mailboxes at a time...

Thanks, I'll post in the SBS site...  although the sbs site...

Brad


"John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]" <jcoliverjr@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:%23T6P7WDtKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I believe the database files are different but cannot recall what exactly 
>is the difference, you might post to SBS newsgroup for clarification.  If 
>you have a small amount of users I would suggest using Exmerge.exe to 
>export user mailboxes to PST files.
>
> -- 
> John Oliver, Jr
> MCSE, MCT, CCNA
> Exchange MVP 2009
> Microsoft Certified Partner
>
>
> "Brad Pears" <bradp@truenorthloghomes.com> wrote in message 
> news:OCAmFQDtKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> We are looking at dumping our SBS 2000 box and would like to set up a 
>> different win2K box with just the std version of exchange 2000 until such 
>> time as we can afford to upgrade to the newest version of exchange.
>>
>> I need to get this up and running asap.Can I setup my new win2k server, 
>> running the regular version of exchange 2000 and then once setup restore 
>> my sbs exchange 2000 information stores to this new box running the 
>> regular version of exchange 2000??  Are the information stores in the sbs 
>> 2000 version of exchange the same as the std version of exchange 2000 or 
>> will I run into issues simply restoring those information stores?
>>
>> Thanks, Brad
>> 


0
Brad
2/23/2010 4:58:08 PM
Thanks for the response...  I may have to go that route - problem is I just 
had to rebuild the SBS box and the restore did not work. I have half of an 
SBS working and the other half is screwed...  I am going to attempt another 
non-authopratitive restore of system state later today to see if I cna get 
it stabilzed... If I can - we'll be good to go, if not I may have to resort 
to other options...

Do you know if I can technically install the Exchange 2000 version that 
comes on the SBS 2000 cd's onto a standard windows 2000 server??  If so, I 
would go this route to get myself up and running properly again  - then in 
the meantime rebuild my SBS or upgrade it. I don't care about the licensing 
right now - as you said it's been 10 yrs for pete's sakes - and we are an MS 
shop - and they have got and willbe getting lots of $'s from us. You do what 
you have to do to get up and running - as long as you aren;t planning on it 
being permanent I don;t see the issue with what I want to do.

The other thing I could try is to see if I can locate a 6 month trial of 
exchange 2003 somewhere becasue if I could - I would move us over to that 
now and later on to sbs 2008. I know MS has pulled the trial download  from 
their sites though... Do you know where I might be still be able to download 
it at all?  I am planning to be on SBS 2008 within 6 mionths - as soon as I 
get some funds released cuz right now I don;t have any money to work with...

Thanks, Brad

"Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert" 
<LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:9E2213F7-8810-4173-9440-7A8F22219E79@microsoft.com...
> Technically, it may be possible.
>
> However, it may not be legal as you will not be licensed for that Exchange
> server because your SBS CALs currently cover your Exchange CAL 
> requirement.
> The provision to legally extend SBS CALs to additional Exchange servers on
> the network was added beginning with SBS 2003 R2 and it was one of key
> release points of the R2. Besides, the cost to license standalone Exchange
> server software exceeds the cost of SBS 2008.
>
> My recommendation?
>
> Disconnect SBS 2000 from the network
> Backup the server with NTBACKUP.
> Start setting up new copy of SBS 2000 on a modern 64-bit hardware box. I
> bought a Dell 6800 quad-Xeon with 16GB RAM for less than $500, so they are
> very cheap nowdays on the used market. Get it to the point where the OS is
> running, but don't bother installing SBS components.
> Restore the backup.
> Reconnect the newly rebuilt box to the network.
>
> This lets you keep using what you have now legally (unless the original
> license was an OEM one, but who really cares 10 years later...) on new
> hardware without any extra headaches.
>
> You can then upgrade this to SBS 2008, which includes Exchange 2007, at 
> your
> leisure. This will be the most cost-effective approach. If you have 
> specific
> questions about SBS, post them in microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs :)
>
> To answer your question about stores compatibility, yes the Exchange 
> server
> included with SBS is not crippled in any way.
> -- 
> Leonid S. Knyshov
> Crashproof Solutions
> 510-282-1008
> Twitter: @wiseleo
> http://crashproofsolutions.com
> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
> Please vote "helpful" if I helped you :)
>
>
> "Brad Pears" wrote:
>
>> We are looking at dumping our SBS 2000 box and would like to set up a
>> different win2K box with just the std version of exchange 2000 until such
>> time as we can afford to upgrade to the newest version of exchange.
>>
>> I need to get this up and running asap.Can I setup my new win2k server,
>> running the regular version of exchange 2000 and then once setup restore 
>> my
>> sbs exchange 2000 information stores to this new box running the regular
>> version of exchange 2000??  Are the information stores in the sbs 2000
>> version of exchange the same as the std version of exchange 2000 or will 
>> I
>> run into issues simply restoring those information stores?
>>
>> Thanks, Brad
>>
>>
>> .
>> 


0
Brad
2/23/2010 5:21:11 PM
Well, for test purposes, you can download Exchange 2003 from an MSDN 
subscription but you can't use it in production. I don't remember if 
attempting to install that Exchange build on a standalone server is possible. 
The installer was the same as your standard Exchange 2000 server, if I recall 
correctly. I think it'll prompt you for a CD key that you won't have.

Sorry, but that's what happens when software's support lifecycle ends.

I can probably make your SBS work again in a few hours. You may find that to 
be the most cost-effective solution. :) If your company's credit is good, we 
can finance the solution over a period of time to lessen the budget impact.

Step 1. Fix SBS 2000
Step 2. Migrate to SBS 2008

Technically, it will not matter whether or not that Exchange server is on 
the SBS box or on a separate box. As long as it's in the same domain, you'll 
have the same problem and Exchange 2000 vs. Exchange 2003 won't be too much 
of a difference. Although, the RSG feature of Exchange 2003 could be helpful 
in this case.
-- 
Leonid S. Knyshov
Crashproof Solutions
510-282-1008
Twitter: @wiseleo
http://crashproofsolutions.com
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
Please vote "helpful" if I helped you :)


"Brad Pears" wrote:

> Thanks for the response...  I may have to go that route - problem is I just 
> had to rebuild the SBS box and the restore did not work. I have half of an 
> SBS working and the other half is screwed...  I am going to attempt another 
> non-authopratitive restore of system state later today to see if I cna get 
> it stabilzed... If I can - we'll be good to go, if not I may have to resort 
> to other options...
> 
> Do you know if I can technically install the Exchange 2000 version that 
> comes on the SBS 2000 cd's onto a standard windows 2000 server??  If so, I 
> would go this route to get myself up and running properly again  - then in 
> the meantime rebuild my SBS or upgrade it. I don't care about the licensing 
> right now - as you said it's been 10 yrs for pete's sakes - and we are an MS 
> shop - and they have got and willbe getting lots of $'s from us. You do what 
> you have to do to get up and running - as long as you aren;t planning on it 
> being permanent I don;t see the issue with what I want to do.
> 
> The other thing I could try is to see if I can locate a 6 month trial of 
> exchange 2003 somewhere becasue if I could - I would move us over to that 
> now and later on to sbs 2008. I know MS has pulled the trial download  from 
> their sites though... Do you know where I might be still be able to download 
> it at all?  I am planning to be on SBS 2008 within 6 mionths - as soon as I 
> get some funds released cuz right now I don;t have any money to work with...
> 
> Thanks, Brad
> 
> "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert" 
> <LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
> news:9E2213F7-8810-4173-9440-7A8F22219E79@microsoft.com...
> > Technically, it may be possible.
> >
> > However, it may not be legal as you will not be licensed for that Exchange
> > server because your SBS CALs currently cover your Exchange CAL 
> > requirement.
> > The provision to legally extend SBS CALs to additional Exchange servers on
> > the network was added beginning with SBS 2003 R2 and it was one of key
> > release points of the R2. Besides, the cost to license standalone Exchange
> > server software exceeds the cost of SBS 2008.
> >
> > My recommendation?
> >
> > Disconnect SBS 2000 from the network
> > Backup the server with NTBACKUP.
> > Start setting up new copy of SBS 2000 on a modern 64-bit hardware box. I
> > bought a Dell 6800 quad-Xeon with 16GB RAM for less than $500, so they are
> > very cheap nowdays on the used market. Get it to the point where the OS is
> > running, but don't bother installing SBS components.
> > Restore the backup.
> > Reconnect the newly rebuilt box to the network.
> >
> > This lets you keep using what you have now legally (unless the original
> > license was an OEM one, but who really cares 10 years later...) on new
> > hardware without any extra headaches.
> >
> > You can then upgrade this to SBS 2008, which includes Exchange 2007, at 
> > your
> > leisure. This will be the most cost-effective approach. If you have 
> > specific
> > questions about SBS, post them in microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs :)
> >
> > To answer your question about stores compatibility, yes the Exchange 
> > server
> > included with SBS is not crippled in any way.
> > -- 
> > Leonid S. Knyshov
> > Crashproof Solutions
> > 510-282-1008
> > Twitter: @wiseleo
> > http://crashproofsolutions.com
> > Microsoft Small Business Specialist
> > Please vote "helpful" if I helped you :)
> >
> >
> > "Brad Pears" wrote:
> >
> >> We are looking at dumping our SBS 2000 box and would like to set up a
> >> different win2K box with just the std version of exchange 2000 until such
> >> time as we can afford to upgrade to the newest version of exchange.
> >>
> >> I need to get this up and running asap.Can I setup my new win2k server,
> >> running the regular version of exchange 2000 and then once setup restore 
> >> my
> >> sbs exchange 2000 information stores to this new box running the regular
> >> version of exchange 2000??  Are the information stores in the sbs 2000
> >> version of exchange the same as the std version of exchange 2000 or will 
> >> I
> >> run into issues simply restoring those information stores?
> >>
> >> Thanks, Brad
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
0
Utf
2/24/2010 12:39:02 AM
Exmerge.exe can do multiple mailboxes at one time.  This is the free method. 
If you want a third party tool, Ontrack Powercontrols will restore from 
offline databases or tapes.

-- 
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2009
Microsoft Certified Partner


"Brad Pears" <bradp@truenorthloghomes.com> wrote in message 
news:#Os#hlKtKHA.6124@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> We have close to 75 mailboxes. The total Exchange database size is less 
> than 16gb (that's the SBS 2000 limit anyway) so that may be doable but 
> would likely be a bit of a pain in the rump - unless you can use exmerge 
> to do multiple mailboxes at a time...
>
> Thanks, I'll post in the SBS site...  although the sbs site...
>
> Brad
>
>
> "John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]" <jcoliverjr@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:%23T6P7WDtKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I believe the database files are different but cannot recall what exactly 
>>is the difference, you might post to SBS newsgroup for clarification.  If 
>>you have a small amount of users I would suggest using Exmerge.exe to 
>>export user mailboxes to PST files.
>>
>> -- 
>> John Oliver, Jr
>> MCSE, MCT, CCNA
>> Exchange MVP 2009
>> Microsoft Certified Partner
>>
>>
>> "Brad Pears" <bradp@truenorthloghomes.com> wrote in message 
>> news:OCAmFQDtKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> We are looking at dumping our SBS 2000 box and would like to set up a 
>>> different win2K box with just the std version of exchange 2000 until 
>>> such time as we can afford to upgrade to the newest version of exchange.
>>>
>>> I need to get this up and running asap.Can I setup my new win2k server, 
>>> running the regular version of exchange 2000 and then once setup restore 
>>> my sbs exchange 2000 information stores to this new box running the 
>>> regular version of exchange 2000??  Are the information stores in the 
>>> sbs 2000 version of exchange the same as the std version of exchange 
>>> 2000 or will I run into issues simply restoring those information 
>>> stores?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Brad
>>>
>
> 
0
John
2/24/2010 3:03:12 AM
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i have a multicolumn combo box...with columns FName, MName, and LName...how can i enable it to display the 3 values of the column when a row is selected?? it's like that i'm merging the 3 values int the text box display of the combo box...please....thank yu -- ai® On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:30:20 GMT, ai_enjoi wrote: > i have a multicolumn combo box...with columns FName, MName, and LName...how > can i enable it to display the 3 values of the column when a row is selected?? > it's like that i'm merging the 3 values int the text box display of the combo > box......

Can I migrate my old Exchange 5.5 from NT4 to 2003 server?
Totally have no idea about how to do it. Any tips, please. Thanks a lot Hi, Exchange 5.5 will not run on Windows 2003. Exchange 5.5 will run on Windows 2000. The only version of Exchange that will run on Windows 2003 is Exchange 2003. -- Thanks, James Burrage This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Please do not send email to this address, post a reply to this newsgroup. Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm "yuner" <annie_bai2000@yahoo.com> wrote in m...

Blocking .zip files
Is there any way to block certain extension files (besides the 66+ already blocked by default) on Exchange 2000 or should I use the server anti-virus settings for that ? use your AV... "Marlon Brown" <marlon_brown@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e#aeScXAEHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Is there any way to block certain extension files (besides the 66+ already > blocked by default) on Exchange 2000 or should I use the server anti-virus > settings for that ? > > You can either have your Server Exchange Aware Antivirus program do this or I have been sugge...

Rename Exchange MBX Folders
Hi. How do you rename folders in the M: drive? Ex. Inbox to Bandeja de entrada. Ive tried using the Exmerge.exe program, however it doesnt work. Thanks The M: drive is a virtual drive. Pretend that it doesn't exist. Do not interfere with it. People have corrupted their information stores when playing with the M: drive. -- Neil Hobson Exchange MVP For Exchange news, links and tips, check: http://www.msexchange.co.uk "alonso" <alonso.alamo@cajacirculo.es> wrote in message news:0c5b01c3d603$265cfca0$a601280a@phx.gbl... > Hi. > > How do you rename folde...

unable to open information store
After a recent power failure, where the exchange server was not shut down properly and just died, I now have users, that used to be able to open other users inbox to read the emails, now not able to open these inboxes. the message is unable to open information store. The same also applies to callenders, but this is not happening to everyone, as I can still access other peoples folders. ...

Lock text box
How do you lock the position of a text box in Publisher 2002? You don't - but don't take it personally, neither does anyone else :) The closest technique I know of is to create a separate Master (if it's something that isn't to appear on multiple pages), put the element on the Master. -- HTH |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac "Angela" <Angela@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:10082530-F3FB-44FB-805C-B6B5C5D8F60D@microsoft.com... > How do you lock the position of a text box in Publisher 2002? What do you mean? Is your textbox moving o...