Journal internal mail only

Hello all,

On Exchange 5.5 (via registry hacks) I was able to configure message 
journaling to affect ONLY internal email.  That is, only messages which do 
NOT go to or come from the outside world are jounaled.

On exchange 2000/2003 this appears to have changed.  I can tick a box to 
archive ALL messages sent through a mail store, but I need to ONLY 
archive/journal internal messages.

The reason for this is that we have a gateway service which archives all 
external mail.  I need to send ONLY internal email to the gateway archive 
system.

Does anyone know how to configure exchange 2000/2003 to archive/journal only 
internal messages?  (without writing any event sinks etc).

Ideally I need to do this with just configuration, not any code installed on 
the exchange server.

Thanks.
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SnowCrash (5)
3/7/2006 2:09:27 AM
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"SnowCrash" <SnowCrash@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:75F064A7-D1CA-487E-804D-638795B0D0C0@microsoft.com...
> Hello all,
>
> On Exchange 5.5 (via registry hacks) I was able to configure message
> journaling to affect ONLY internal email.  That is, only messages which do
> NOT go to or come from the outside world are jounaled.
>
> On exchange 2000/2003 this appears to have changed.  I can tick a box to
> archive ALL messages sent through a mail store, but I need to ONLY
> archive/journal internal messages.
>
> The reason for this is that we have a gateway service which archives all
> external mail.  I need to send ONLY internal email to the gateway archive
> system.
>
> Does anyone know how to configure exchange 2000/2003 to archive/journal
> only
> internal messages?  (without writing any event sinks etc).
>
> Ideally I need to do this with just configuration, not any code installed
> on
> the exchange server.
>
> Thanks.

I wasn't aware there was any (supported) way to do this even in 5.5.  There
is no way to do this in E2000/2003 that I know of. You may need to use third
party archive products for this.  However, I'd have to wonder whether it 
would be practical/useful to have two entirely separate sets of archives 
using different tools.



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lanwench (7567)
3/7/2006 3:02:58 AM
You can't do this using any built-in tools or configuration short of a Store 
event sink.
----
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------


"SnowCrash" <SnowCrash@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:75F064A7-D1CA-487E-804D-638795B0D0C0@microsoft.com...
> Hello all,
>
> On Exchange 5.5 (via registry hacks) I was able to configure message
> journaling to affect ONLY internal email.  That is, only messages which do
> NOT go to or come from the outside world are jounaled.
>
> On exchange 2000/2003 this appears to have changed.  I can tick a box to
> archive ALL messages sent through a mail store, but I need to ONLY
> archive/journal internal messages.
>
> The reason for this is that we have a gateway service which archives all
> external mail.  I need to send ONLY internal email to the gateway archive
> system.
>
> Does anyone know how to configure exchange 2000/2003 to archive/journal 
> only
> internal messages?  (without writing any event sinks etc).
>
> Ideally I need to do this with just configuration, not any code installed 
> on
> the exchange server.
>
> Thanks. 


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bharatsuneja1 (3146)
3/7/2006 3:04:12 AM
Thanks guys.

It was possible in Exchange 5.5 because there were actually two settings 
required.

1. Route external mail through the internal mail store
2. Journal messages on the internal mail store

By setting only the second step, external email was not routed through the 
internal store and was therefore not journaled.  I thought there may be a 
simililar distinction "under the covers" of exchange 2000/3.

Just to clarify, there aren't two separate archives.  The external gateway 
archives  external email.  I need to send internal email to the external 
gateway via journaling.  The problem is that if journaling sends both 
internal and external I'll end up with duplicates in the archive.

"Bharat Suneja" wrote:

> You can't do this using any built-in tools or configuration short of a Store 
> event sink.
> ----
> Bharat Suneja
> MCSE, MCT
> www.zenprise.com
> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
> -----------------------------------------
> 
> 
> "SnowCrash" <SnowCrash@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
> news:75F064A7-D1CA-487E-804D-638795B0D0C0@microsoft.com...
> > Hello all,
> >
> > On Exchange 5.5 (via registry hacks) I was able to configure message
> > journaling to affect ONLY internal email.  That is, only messages which do
> > NOT go to or come from the outside world are jounaled.
> >
> > On exchange 2000/2003 this appears to have changed.  I can tick a box to
> > archive ALL messages sent through a mail store, but I need to ONLY
> > archive/journal internal messages.
> >
> > The reason for this is that we have a gateway service which archives all
> > external mail.  I need to send ONLY internal email to the gateway archive
> > system.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to configure exchange 2000/2003 to archive/journal 
> > only
> > internal messages?  (without writing any event sinks etc).
> >
> > Ideally I need to do this with just configuration, not any code installed 
> > on
> > the exchange server.
> >
> > Thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
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SnowCrash (5)
3/7/2006 3:48:26 AM
Instead of having it archive external mail before it reaches Exchange, you 
could enable message journaling on Exchange (both internal and internet 
mail), and point it to a mailbox on your external provider's system. This 
will take care of both types of mail using one, consistent journaling 
system.
-- 
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
-----------------------------------------


"SnowCrash" <SnowCrash@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:4E902DDE-D7F3-4C64-B8E2-F9CED757A3C5@microsoft.com...
> Thanks guys.
>
> It was possible in Exchange 5.5 because there were actually two settings
> required.
>
> 1. Route external mail through the internal mail store
> 2. Journal messages on the internal mail store
>
> By setting only the second step, external email was not routed through the
> internal store and was therefore not journaled.  I thought there may be a
> simililar distinction "under the covers" of exchange 2000/3.
>
> Just to clarify, there aren't two separate archives.  The external gateway
> archives  external email.  I need to send internal email to the external
> gateway via journaling.  The problem is that if journaling sends both
> internal and external I'll end up with duplicates in the archive.
>
> "Bharat Suneja" wrote:
>
>> You can't do this using any built-in tools or configuration short of a 
>> Store
>> event sink.
>> ----
>> Bharat Suneja
>> MCSE, MCT
>> www.zenprise.com
>> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
>> -----------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "SnowCrash" <SnowCrash@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:75F064A7-D1CA-487E-804D-638795B0D0C0@microsoft.com...
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > On Exchange 5.5 (via registry hacks) I was able to configure message
>> > journaling to affect ONLY internal email.  That is, only messages which 
>> > do
>> > NOT go to or come from the outside world are jounaled.
>> >
>> > On exchange 2000/2003 this appears to have changed.  I can tick a box 
>> > to
>> > archive ALL messages sent through a mail store, but I need to ONLY
>> > archive/journal internal messages.
>> >
>> > The reason for this is that we have a gateway service which archives 
>> > all
>> > external mail.  I need to send ONLY internal email to the gateway 
>> > archive
>> > system.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to configure exchange 2000/2003 to archive/journal
>> > only
>> > internal messages?  (without writing any event sinks etc).
>> >
>> > Ideally I need to do this with just configuration, not any code 
>> > installed
>> > on
>> > the exchange server.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>
>> 


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bharatsuneja1 (3146)
3/7/2006 6:46:54 AM
True, however the gateway archive also does anti-virus/anti-spam so external 
mail will always pass through it.  In addition it provides full web-based 
access so if our internal exchange server goes down we can still access our 
email.

Looks like I'll have to hack up an event sink :)

"Bharat Suneja" wrote:

> Instead of having it archive external mail before it reaches Exchange, you 
> could enable message journaling on Exchange (both internal and internet 
> mail), and point it to a mailbox on your external provider's system. This 
> will take care of both types of mail using one, consistent journaling 
> system.
> -- 
> Bharat Suneja
> MCSE, MCT
> www.zenprise.com
> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
> -----------------------------------------
> 
> 
> "SnowCrash" <SnowCrash@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
> news:4E902DDE-D7F3-4C64-B8E2-F9CED757A3C5@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> > It was possible in Exchange 5.5 because there were actually two settings
> > required.
> >
> > 1. Route external mail through the internal mail store
> > 2. Journal messages on the internal mail store
> >
> > By setting only the second step, external email was not routed through the
> > internal store and was therefore not journaled.  I thought there may be a
> > simililar distinction "under the covers" of exchange 2000/3.
> >
> > Just to clarify, there aren't two separate archives.  The external gateway
> > archives  external email.  I need to send internal email to the external
> > gateway via journaling.  The problem is that if journaling sends both
> > internal and external I'll end up with duplicates in the archive.
> >
> > "Bharat Suneja" wrote:
> >
> >> You can't do this using any built-in tools or configuration short of a 
> >> Store
> >> event sink.
> >> ----
> >> Bharat Suneja
> >> MCSE, MCT
> >> www.zenprise.com
> >> blog: www.suneja.com/blog
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> "SnowCrash" <SnowCrash@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:75F064A7-D1CA-487E-804D-638795B0D0C0@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > On Exchange 5.5 (via registry hacks) I was able to configure message
> >> > journaling to affect ONLY internal email.  That is, only messages which 
> >> > do
> >> > NOT go to or come from the outside world are jounaled.
> >> >
> >> > On exchange 2000/2003 this appears to have changed.  I can tick a box 
> >> > to
> >> > archive ALL messages sent through a mail store, but I need to ONLY
> >> > archive/journal internal messages.
> >> >
> >> > The reason for this is that we have a gateway service which archives 
> >> > all
> >> > external mail.  I need to send ONLY internal email to the gateway 
> >> > archive
> >> > system.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know how to configure exchange 2000/2003 to archive/journal
> >> > only
> >> > internal messages?  (without writing any event sinks etc).
> >> >
> >> > Ideally I need to do this with just configuration, not any code 
> >> > installed
> >> > on
> >> > the exchange server.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> 
> 
> 
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SnowCrash (5)
3/7/2006 7:13:26 AM
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