Experts Challenge: MAPI is unable to access Public Folder store items

Goodday to all of you,

I have crosspost my messages to several newsgroups.
Reason for this is that my previous posts to different newsgroups did not 
solve the problem.
Maybe if I crosspost, there will be an expert that has a solution.
Also I am not sure to which group I should post my problem.
Maybe this post long-winded, do not see at as material for a novel!!! - I am 
just trying to explain the exact TERRIBLE situation!
---- ---- ---- ----

I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.

All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public Folders 
using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the correct 
permissions.
If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the item. You 
do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this object. 
See the folder contact or your system administrator".

However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, they are 
able to read the items.
Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it 
becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then be 
able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a "Reviewer" 
can.


I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like 
PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
These tools did not solve anything.
Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and the 
public calendar are not effected with above problem.

Some specifications:
Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently added a 
new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the 
domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (test 
mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the 
problem.


I know I am not the only one that has experienced this behaviour, I have 
seen many posts (going back to 2003) about this problem.
Example: 
http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
But all these post I have seen, are unsolved or remain unanswered.
Therefore I must assume there is no expert in the msnews that has a solution 
to this!!!???
Can't be, come on experts, please help me out!

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charlie
9/1/2006 1:09:02 PM
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Does this occur when when you create new folders as well? What you
could possible do is use Pfdavadmin, export all permissions out, give
everyone owner rights, give it some time for Exchange to recognize the
update, then import the orginal permissions back in. I suggest you test
this process first and make sure you have good backups.

James Chong
MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
msexchangetips.blogspot.com
ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/

charliebrown wrote:
> Goodday to all of you,
>
> I have crosspost my messages to several newsgroups.
> Reason for this is that my previous posts to different newsgroups did not
> solve the problem.
> Maybe if I crosspost, there will be an expert that has a solution.
> Also I am not sure to which group I should post my problem.
> Maybe this post long-winded, do not see at as material for a novel!!! - I=
 am
> just trying to explain the exact TERRIBLE situation!
> ---- ---- ---- ----
>
> I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
>
> All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public Folders
> using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the correct
> permissions.
> If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the item. =
You
> do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this objec=
t=2E
> See the folder contact or your system administrator".
>
> However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, they =
are
> able to read the items.
> Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then be
> able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a "Review=
er"
> can.
>
>
> I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> These tools did not solve anything.
> Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and the
> public calendar are not effected with above problem.
>
> Some specifications:
> Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently added a
> new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (test
> mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> problem.
>
>
> I know I am not the only one that has experienced this behaviour, I have
> seen many posts (going back to 2003) about this problem.
> Example:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/=
3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
> But all these post I have seen, are unsolved or remain unanswered.
> Therefore I must assume there is no expert in the msnews that has a solut=
ion
> to this!!!???
> Can't be, come on experts, please help me out!
>
> --
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
>   =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=BB

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jamestechman (1266)
9/1/2006 2:38:41 PM
Try setting the user's Outlook profile to always request username and
password.  Look to see if they are using multiple profiles with
different authentication properties.  I had to do this on mine and it
cleared up.  The tell-tale clue is that it works in OWA, which requests
authentication if you are using Forms-Based Authentication.

Matt

jamestechman@gmail.com wrote:
> Does this occur when when you create new folders as well? What you
> could possible do is use Pfdavadmin, export all permissions out, give
> everyone owner rights, give it some time for Exchange to recognize the
> update, then import the orginal permissions back in. I suggest you test
> this process first and make sure you have good backups.
>
> James Chong
> MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
> msexchangetips.blogspot.com
> ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/
>
> charliebrown wrote:
> > Goodday to all of you,
> >
> > I have crosspost my messages to several newsgroups.
> > Reason for this is that my previous posts to different newsgroups did n=
ot
> > solve the problem.
> > Maybe if I crosspost, there will be an expert that has a solution.
> > Also I am not sure to which group I should post my problem.
> > Maybe this post long-winded, do not see at as material for a novel!!! -=
 I am
> > just trying to explain the exact TERRIBLE situation!
> > ---- ---- ---- ----
> >
> > I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
> >
> > All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public Folde=
rs
> > using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the corre=
ct
> > permissions.
> > If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the item=
.. You
> > do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this obj=
ect.
> > See the folder contact or your system administrator".
> >
> > However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, the=
y are
> > able to read the items.
> > Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> > User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> > becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then be
> > able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> > In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a "Revi=
ewer"
> > can.
> >
> >
> > I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> > PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> > These tools did not solve anything.
> > Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and t=
he
> > public calendar are not effected with above problem.
> >
> > Some specifications:
> > Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently added=
 a
> > new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> > But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> > domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> > Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (test
> > mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> > problem.
> >
> >
> > I know I am not the only one that has experienced this behaviour, I have
> > seen many posts (going back to 2003) about this problem.
> > Example:
> > http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/threa=
d/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
> > But all these post I have seen, are unsolved or remain unanswered.
> > Therefore I must assume there is no expert in the msnews that has a sol=
ution
> > to this!!!???
> > Can't be, come on experts, please help me out!
> >
> > --
> >      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=
=BB
> >   =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
> >      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=
=BB

0
9/1/2006 8:21:27 PM
Even set to always request username and password, reviewers are still not 
able to open items in the PBFstore.
Users only have one profile in use.

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<mrforklift@gmail.com> schreef in bericht 
news:1157142087.424080.304810@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Try setting the user's Outlook profile to always request username and
password.  Look to see if they are using multiple profiles with
different authentication properties.  I had to do this on mine and it
cleared up.  The tell-tale clue is that it works in OWA, which requests
authentication if you are using Forms-Based Authentication.

Matt

jamestechman@gmail.com wrote:
> Does this occur when when you create new folders as well? What you
> could possible do is use Pfdavadmin, export all permissions out, give
> everyone owner rights, give it some time for Exchange to recognize the
> update, then import the orginal permissions back in. I suggest you test
> this process first and make sure you have good backups.
>
> James Chong
> MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
> msexchangetips.blogspot.com
> ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/
>
> charliebrown wrote:
> > Goodday to all of you,
> >
> > I have crosspost my messages to several newsgroups.
> > Reason for this is that my previous posts to different newsgroups did 
> > not
> > solve the problem.
> > Maybe if I crosspost, there will be an expert that has a solution.
> > Also I am not sure to which group I should post my problem.
> > Maybe this post long-winded, do not see at as material for a novel!!! - 
> > I am
> > just trying to explain the exact TERRIBLE situation!
> > ---- ---- ---- ----
> >
> > I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
> >
> > All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public 
> > Folders
> > using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the 
> > correct
> > permissions.
> > If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the item. 
> > You
> > do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this 
> > object.
> > See the folder contact or your system administrator".
> >
> > However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, they 
> > are
> > able to read the items.
> > Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> > User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> > becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then be
> > able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> > In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a 
> > "Reviewer"
> > can.
> >
> >
> > I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> > PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> > These tools did not solve anything.
> > Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and 
> > the
> > public calendar are not effected with above problem.
> >
> > Some specifications:
> > Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently added 
> > a
> > new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> > But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> > domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> > Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (test
> > mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> > problem.
> >
> >
> > I know I am not the only one that has experienced this behaviour, I have
> > seen many posts (going back to 2003) about this problem.
> > Example:
> > http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
> > But all these post I have seen, are unsolved or remain unanswered.
> > Therefore I must assume there is no expert in the msnews that has a 
> > solution
> > to this!!!???
> > Can't be, come on experts, please help me out!
> >
> > --
> >      ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
> >   �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
> >      ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��


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charlie
9/2/2006 3:15:31 PM
What happens if you take of the PFs that's having issues, change the
perms so that they are owners, see if it takes and if it does change it
back to the original reviewer, kinda like giving it a kick start.

James Chong
MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
msexchangetips.blogspot.com
ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/

charliebrown wrote:
> Even set to always request username and password, reviewers are still not
> able to open items in the PBFstore.
> Users only have one profile in use.
>
> --
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
>   =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
>
>
> <mrforklift@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:1157142087.424080.304810@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Try setting the user's Outlook profile to always request username and
> password.  Look to see if they are using multiple profiles with
> different authentication properties.  I had to do this on mine and it
> cleared up.  The tell-tale clue is that it works in OWA, which requests
> authentication if you are using Forms-Based Authentication.
>
> Matt
>
> jamestechman@gmail.com wrote:
> > Does this occur when when you create new folders as well? What you
> > could possible do is use Pfdavadmin, export all permissions out, give
> > everyone owner rights, give it some time for Exchange to recognize the
> > update, then import the orginal permissions back in. I suggest you test
> > this process first and make sure you have good backups.
> >
> > James Chong
> > MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
> > msexchangetips.blogspot.com
> > ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/
> >
> > charliebrown wrote:
> > > Goodday to all of you,
> > >
> > > I have crosspost my messages to several newsgroups.
> > > Reason for this is that my previous posts to different newsgroups did
> > > not
> > > solve the problem.
> > > Maybe if I crosspost, there will be an expert that has a solution.
> > > Also I am not sure to which group I should post my problem.
> > > Maybe this post long-winded, do not see at as material for a novel!!!=
 -
> > > I am
> > > just trying to explain the exact TERRIBLE situation!
> > > ---- ---- ---- ----
> > >
> > > I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
> > >
> > > All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public
> > > Folders
> > > using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the
> > > correct
> > > permissions.
> > > If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the it=
em.
> > > You
> > > do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this
> > > object.
> > > See the folder contact or your system administrator".
> > >
> > > However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, t=
hey
> > > are
> > > able to read the items.
> > > Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> > > User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> > > becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then=
 be
> > > able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> > > In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a
> > > "Reviewer"
> > > can.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> > > PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> > > These tools did not solve anything.
> > > Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and
> > > the
> > > public calendar are not effected with above problem.
> > >
> > > Some specifications:
> > > Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently add=
ed
> > > a
> > > new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> > > But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> > > domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> > > Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (t=
est
> > > mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > I know I am not the only one that has experienced this behaviour, I h=
ave
> > > seen many posts (going back to 2003) about this problem.
> > > Example:
> > > http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thr=
ead/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
> > > But all these post I have seen, are unsolved or remain unanswered.
> > > Therefore I must assume there is no expert in the msnews that has a
> > > solution
> > > to this!!!???
> > > Can't be, come on experts, please help me out!
> > >
> > > --
> > >      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=
=BB
> > >   =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
> > >      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=
=BB

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jamestechman (1266)
9/3/2006 12:11:15 AM
Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware not able 
to open the e-mails within in this folder.
Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the 
permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back again.


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<jamestechman@gmail.com> schreef in bericht 
news:1157121520.976851.281670@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
Does this occur when when you create new folders as well? What you
could possible do is use Pfdavadmin, export all permissions out, give
everyone owner rights, give it some time for Exchange to recognize the
update, then import the orginal permissions back in. I suggest you test
this process first and make sure you have good backups.

James Chong
MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
msexchangetips.blogspot.com
ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/

charliebrown wrote:
> Goodday to all of you,
>
> I have crosspost my messages to several newsgroups.
> Reason for this is that my previous posts to different newsgroups did not
> solve the problem.
> Maybe if I crosspost, there will be an expert that has a solution.
> Also I am not sure to which group I should post my problem.
> Maybe this post long-winded, do not see at as material for a novel!!! - I 
> am
> just trying to explain the exact TERRIBLE situation!
> ---- ---- ---- ----
>
> I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
>
> All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public Folders
> using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the correct
> permissions.
> If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the item. 
> You
> do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this 
> object.
> See the folder contact or your system administrator".
>
> However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, they 
> are
> able to read the items.
> Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then be
> able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a 
> "Reviewer"
> can.
>
>
> I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> These tools did not solve anything.
> Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and the
> public calendar are not effected with above problem.
>
> Some specifications:
> Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently added a
> new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (test
> mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> problem.
>
>
> I know I am not the only one that has experienced this behaviour, I have
> seen many posts (going back to 2003) about this problem.
> Example:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
> But all these post I have seen, are unsolved or remain unanswered.
> Therefore I must assume there is no expert in the msnews that has a 
> solution
> to this!!!???
> Can't be, come on experts, please help me out!
>
> --
>      ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
>   �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
>      ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��


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charlie
9/3/2006 7:57:33 AM
I have changed the permissions for the users overnight from reviewer to 
owner.
However once the permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where 
back again.

Instead of a kick start, don't you have some hotwires?

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<jamestechman@gmail.com> schreef in bericht 
news:1157242275.474620.61050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
What happens if you take of the PFs that's having issues, change the
perms so that they are owners, see if it takes and if it does change it
back to the original reviewer, kinda like giving it a kick start.

James Chong
MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
msexchangetips.blogspot.com
ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/

charliebrown wrote:
> Even set to always request username and password, reviewers are still not
> able to open items in the PBFstore.
> Users only have one profile in use.
>
> --
>      ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
>   �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
>      ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��
>
>
> <mrforklift@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:1157142087.424080.304810@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Try setting the user's Outlook profile to always request username and
> password.  Look to see if they are using multiple profiles with
> different authentication properties.  I had to do this on mine and it
> cleared up.  The tell-tale clue is that it works in OWA, which requests
> authentication if you are using Forms-Based Authentication.
>
> Matt
>
> jamestechman@gmail.com wrote:
> > Does this occur when when you create new folders as well? What you
> > could possible do is use Pfdavadmin, export all permissions out, give
> > everyone owner rights, give it some time for Exchange to recognize the
> > update, then import the orginal permissions back in. I suggest you test
> > this process first and make sure you have good backups.
> >
> > James Chong
> > MCSE M+, S+, MCTS, Security+
> > msexchangetips.blogspot.com
> > ftp://mail.msexchange911.net/
> >
> > charliebrown wrote:
> > > Goodday to all of you,
> > >
> > > I have crosspost my messages to several newsgroups.
> > > Reason for this is that my previous posts to different newsgroups did
> > > not
> > > solve the problem.
> > > Maybe if I crosspost, there will be an expert that has a solution.
> > > Also I am not sure to which group I should post my problem.
> > > Maybe this post long-winded, do not see at as material for a 
> > > novel!!! -
> > > I am
> > > just trying to explain the exact TERRIBLE situation!
> > > ---- ---- ---- ----
> > >
> > > I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
> > >
> > > All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public
> > > Folders
> > > using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the
> > > correct
> > > permissions.
> > > If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the 
> > > item.
> > > You
> > > do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this
> > > object.
> > > See the folder contact or your system administrator".
> > >
> > > However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, 
> > > they
> > > are
> > > able to read the items.
> > > Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> > > User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> > > becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then 
> > > be
> > > able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> > > In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a
> > > "Reviewer"
> > > can.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> > > PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> > > These tools did not solve anything.
> > > Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and
> > > the
> > > public calendar are not effected with above problem.
> > >
> > > Some specifications:
> > > Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently 
> > > added
> > > a
> > > new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> > > But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> > > domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> > > Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain 
> > > (test
> > > mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > I know I am not the only one that has experienced this behaviour, I 
> > > have
> > > seen many posts (going back to 2003) about this problem.
> > > Example:
> > > http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
> > > But all these post I have seen, are unsolved or remain unanswered.
> > > Therefore I must assume there is no expert in the msnews that has a
> > > solution
> > > to this!!!???
> > > Can't be, come on experts, please help me out!
> > >
> > > --
> > >      ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
> > >   �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
> > >      ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��


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charlie
9/3/2006 7:59:57 AM
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 09:59:57 +0200, <charlie brown> wrote:

>I have changed the permissions for the users overnight from reviewer to 
>owner.
>However once the permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where 
>back again.
>
>Instead of a kick start, don't you have some hotwires?

Call PSS.

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adavid (8731)
9/3/2006 12:25:37 PM
<charlie brown> wrote:

>Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware not able 
>to open the e-mails within in this folder.
>Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the 
>permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back again.

Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?

When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should* be
the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see what the
NTFS permissions really are.

Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]

Don't change the permissions from there, though.

If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see in
the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the MAPI
perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem that's
preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.

-- 
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
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richnews (7315)
9/3/2006 4:41:33 PM
Hi Rich,

The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.

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     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��


"Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in bericht 
news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
> <charlie brown> wrote:
>
>>Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware not 
>>able
>>to open the e-mails within in this folder.
>>Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
>>permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back again.
>
> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
>
> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should* be
> the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see what the
> NTFS permissions really are.
>
> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
>
> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
>
> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see in
> the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the MAPI
> perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem that's
> preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
>
> -- 
> Rich Matheisen
> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com 
> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com 
> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com 


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charlie
9/4/2006 7:19:31 AM
Just an update to let you know I have found a workaround for my problem.

After doing a little bit of Google searches on this thread: 
http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab

I found out that it is just another Microsoft bug.
I (also) don't understand why Microsoft does not acknowledge this bug, since 
it's pretty fundamental.
How on earth did this get past beta testing???

The workaround is as following:

** ** ** ** ** ** **
Enable Cached mode and make sure you have the check box for "download public 
folder favourites checked.
Then add any public folder you want to view to the public folder favourites. 
You can then view them from that location.

I don't think this is a very good solution but until one is found, that 
should at least get to the point of viewing them.
Hopefully an actual fix will come out soon*.
** ** ** ** ** ** **

Found the solution at:
http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm/thread/b667f45609998c5f/91f82ec6acda0e84?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=nl#91f82ec6acda0e84

* Note that it was posted around November 6'th 2003 ===> And still not any 
hotfix available from Microsoft!
Don't think the will do so, since they already start beta testing of Office 
2007 and Exchange 2007 which do not have Public Folders by default.
I understand Microsoft is "de-emphasizing" Public Folders.......... (why are 
the doing this.......)

-- 
     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��

<charlie brown> schreef in bericht 
news:e1uGqG$zGHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Rich,
>
> The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.
>
> -- 
>     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
>  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
>     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��
>
>
> "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in bericht 
> news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
>> <charlie brown> wrote:
>>
>>>Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware not 
>>>able
>>>to open the e-mails within in this folder.
>>>Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
>>>permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back again.
>>
>> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
>>
>> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should* be
>> the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see what the
>> NTFS permissions really are.
>>
>> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
>>
>> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
>>
>> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see in
>> the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the MAPI
>> perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem that's
>> preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
>>
>> -- 
>> Rich Matheisen
>> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
>> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
>> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
>> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com 
>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com 
>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
>
> 



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charlie
10/3/2006 12:03:33 PM
In news:%23a4w0Pu5GHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
charlie brown <charlie brown> typed:
> Just an update to let you know I have found a workaround for my
> problem.

What exactly *was* the problem? It doesn't appear in the quoted text in this 
thread....
>
> After doing a little bit of Google searches on this thread:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
>
> I found out that it is just another Microsoft bug.
> I (also) don't understand why Microsoft does not acknowledge this
> bug, since it's pretty fundamental.
> How on earth did this get past beta testing???
>
> The workaround is as following:
>
> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
> Enable Cached mode and make sure you have the check box for "download
> public folder favourites checked.
> Then add any public folder you want to view to the public folder
> favourites. You can then view them from that location.
>
> I don't think this is a very good solution but until one is found,
> that should at least get to the point of viewing them.
> Hopefully an actual fix will come out soon*.
> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>
> Found the solution at:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm/thread/b667f45609998c5f/91f82ec6acda0e84?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=nl#91f82ec6acda0e84
>
> * Note that it was posted around November 6'th 2003 ===> And still
> not any hotfix available from Microsoft!
> Don't think the will do so, since they already start beta testing of
> Office 2007 and Exchange 2007 which do not have Public Folders by
> default. I understand Microsoft is "de-emphasizing" Public 
> Folders..........
> (why are the doing this.......)
>
>
> <charlie brown> schreef in bericht
> news:e1uGqG$zGHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Rich,
>>
>> The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.
>>
>> --
>>     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
>>  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
>>     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��
>>
>>
>> "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in
>> bericht news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
>>> <charlie brown> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware
>>>> not able
>>>> to open the e-mails within in this folder.
>>>> Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
>>>> permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back
>>>> again.
>>>
>>> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
>>>
>>> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should*
>>> be the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see
>>> what the NTFS permissions really are.
>>>
>>> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
>>>
>>> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
>>>
>>> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see
>>> in the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the
>>> MAPI perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem
>>> that's preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rich Matheisen
>>> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
>>> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
>>> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
>>> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com
>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com
>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com



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lanwench (7567)
10/11/2006 2:50:06 AM
Hi Lawench,

The problem *was* as following:


> I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
>
> All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public Folders
> using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the correct
> permissions.
> If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the item.
> You do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this
> object. See the folder contact or your system administrator".
>
> However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, they
> are able to read the items.
> Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then be
> able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a
> "Reviewer" can.
>
>
> I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> These tools did not solve anything.
> Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and the
> public calendar are not effected with above problem.
>
> Some specifications:
> Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently added a
> new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (test
> mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> problem.
>
>

-- 
     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> schreef in
bericht news:ehB$KUO7GHA.4580@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> In news:%23a4w0Pu5GHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> charlie brown <charlie brown> typed:
>> Just an update to let you know I have found a workaround for my
>> problem.
>
> What exactly *was* the problem? It doesn't appear in the quoted text in
> this thread....
>>
>> After doing a little bit of Google searches on this thread:
>> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
>>
>> I found out that it is just another Microsoft bug.
>> I (also) don't understand why Microsoft does not acknowledge this
>> bug, since it's pretty fundamental.
>> How on earth did this get past beta testing???
>>
>> The workaround is as following:
>>
>> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>> Enable Cached mode and make sure you have the check box for "download
>> public folder favourites checked.
>> Then add any public folder you want to view to the public folder
>> favourites. You can then view them from that location.
>>
>> I don't think this is a very good solution but until one is found,
>> that should at least get to the point of viewing them.
>> Hopefully an actual fix will come out soon*.
>> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>>
>> Found the solution at:
>> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm/thread/b667f45609998c5f/91f82ec6acda0e84?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=nl#91f82ec6acda0e84
>>
>> * Note that it was posted around November 6'th 2003 ===> And still
>> not any hotfix available from Microsoft!
>> Don't think the will do so, since they already start beta testing of
>> Office 2007 and Exchange 2007 which do not have Public Folders by
>> default. I understand Microsoft is "de-emphasizing" Public
>> Folders..........
>> (why are the doing this.......)
>>
>>
>> <charlie brown> schreef in bericht
>> news:e1uGqG$zGHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Rich,
>>>
>>> The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.
>>>
>>> --
>>>     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
>>>  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
>>>     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in
>>> bericht news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
>>>> <charlie brown> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware
>>>>> not able
>>>>> to open the e-mails within in this folder.
>>>>> Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
>>>>> permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back
>>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
>>>>
>>>> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should*
>>>> be the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see
>>>> what the NTFS permissions really are.
>>>>
>>>> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
>>>>
>>>> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
>>>>
>>>> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see
>>>> in the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the
>>>> MAPI perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem
>>>> that's preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rich Matheisen
>>>> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
>>>> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
>>>> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
>>>> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com
>>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com
>>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
>
>
>
>




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charlie
10/20/2006 1:23:36 PM
Hi Lawench,

The problem *was* as following:


> I am experiencing a problem with our Public Folder Store.
>
> All my users are not be able to access e-mail items in the Public Folders
> using their Outlook (2003) client, even though the users have the correct
> permissions.
> If the user tries to open a messages they receive: "Can't open the item.
> You do not have sufficient permission to perform this operation on this
> object. See the folder contact or your system administrator".
>
> However if the same users tries to access these same items via OWA, they
> are able to read the items.
> Users in subject are so called "Reviewers".
> User with "Owner" rights are able to open and read. Even stranger it
> becomes, once a "Owner" has opened the item, the "Reviewer" will then be
> able to open these items (while before the where not able to).
> In other words, a "Owner" has to open all the message's, before a
> "Reviewer" can.
>
>
> I have done many kbid and Google searches, have tried tools like
> PFDAVAdmin.exe and MFCMAPI.exe.
> These tools did not solve anything.
> Also note that this only occurs to e-mail items. Public addresses and the
> public calendar are not effected with above problem.
>
> Some specifications:
> Microsoft Exchange Server running on a sbs2k3 machine, I recently added a
> new Exchange Enterprise Server (win2k3) in the domain.
> But this was for testing only. After the new Exchange was added to the
> domain (and a test mailbox was moved) above problems started to occur.
> Currently the new Exchange Server has been removed from the domain (test
> mailbox is back on the SBS), because I was hoping this would solve the
> problem.
>
>

-- 
     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> schreef in
bericht news:ehB$KUO7GHA.4580@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> In news:%23a4w0Pu5GHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> charlie brown <charlie brown> typed:
>> Just an update to let you know I have found a workaround for my
>> problem.
>
> What exactly *was* the problem? It doesn't appear in the quoted text in
> this thread....
>>
>> After doing a little bit of Google searches on this thread:
>> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
>>
>> I found out that it is just another Microsoft bug.
>> I (also) don't understand why Microsoft does not acknowledge this
>> bug, since it's pretty fundamental.
>> How on earth did this get past beta testing???
>>
>> The workaround is as following:
>>
>> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>> Enable Cached mode and make sure you have the check box for "download
>> public folder favourites checked.
>> Then add any public folder you want to view to the public folder
>> favourites. You can then view them from that location.
>>
>> I don't think this is a very good solution but until one is found,
>> that should at least get to the point of viewing them.
>> Hopefully an actual fix will come out soon*.
>> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>>
>> Found the solution at:
>> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm/thread/b667f45609998c5f/91f82ec6acda0e84?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=nl#91f82ec6acda0e84
>>
>> * Note that it was posted around November 6'th 2003 ===> And still
>> not any hotfix available from Microsoft!
>> Don't think the will do so, since they already start beta testing of
>> Office 2007 and Exchange 2007 which do not have Public Folders by
>> default. I understand Microsoft is "de-emphasizing" Public
>> Folders..........
>> (why are the doing this.......)
>>
>>
>> <charlie brown> schreef in bericht
>> news:e1uGqG$zGHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Rich,
>>>
>>> The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.
>>>
>>> --
>>>     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
>>>  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
>>>     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in
>>> bericht news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
>>>> <charlie brown> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware
>>>>> not able
>>>>> to open the e-mails within in this folder.
>>>>> Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
>>>>> permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back
>>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
>>>>
>>>> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should*
>>>> be the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see
>>>> what the NTFS permissions really are.
>>>>
>>>> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
>>>>
>>>> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
>>>>
>>>> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see
>>>> in the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the
>>>> MAPI perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem
>>>> that's preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rich Matheisen
>>>> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
>>>> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
>>>> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
>>>> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com
>>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com
>>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
>
>
>
>







"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" 
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> schreef in 
bericht news:ehB$KUO7GHA.4580@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> In news:%23a4w0Pu5GHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
> charlie brown <charlie brown> typed:
>> Just an update to let you know I have found a workaround for my
>> problem.
>
> What exactly *was* the problem? It doesn't appear in the quoted text in 
> this thread....
>>
>> After doing a little bit of Google searches on this thread:
>> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
>>
>> I found out that it is just another Microsoft bug.
>> I (also) don't understand why Microsoft does not acknowledge this
>> bug, since it's pretty fundamental.
>> How on earth did this get past beta testing???
>>
>> The workaround is as following:
>>
>> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>> Enable Cached mode and make sure you have the check box for "download
>> public folder favourites checked.
>> Then add any public folder you want to view to the public folder
>> favourites. You can then view them from that location.
>>
>> I don't think this is a very good solution but until one is found,
>> that should at least get to the point of viewing them.
>> Hopefully an actual fix will come out soon*.
>> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>>
>> Found the solution at:
>> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm/thread/b667f45609998c5f/91f82ec6acda0e84?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4&hl=nl#91f82ec6acda0e84
>>
>> * Note that it was posted around November 6'th 2003 ===> And still
>> not any hotfix available from Microsoft!
>> Don't think the will do so, since they already start beta testing of
>> Office 2007 and Exchange 2007 which do not have Public Folders by
>> default. I understand Microsoft is "de-emphasizing" Public 
>> Folders..........
>> (why are the doing this.......)
>>
>>
>> <charlie brown> schreef in bericht
>> news:e1uGqG$zGHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Rich,
>>>
>>> The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.
>>>
>>> --
>>>     ���`�.(*�.�(`�.� �.��)�.�*).��`��
>>>  �.............. CHARLIE ..............�
>>>     ���`�.(�.��(�.�* *�.�)`�.�).��`��
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in
>>> bericht news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
>>>> <charlie brown> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware
>>>>> not able
>>>>> to open the e-mails within in this folder.
>>>>> Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
>>>>> permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back
>>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
>>>>
>>>> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should*
>>>> be the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see
>>>> what the NTFS permissions really are.
>>>>
>>>> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
>>>>
>>>> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
>>>>
>>>> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see
>>>> in the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the
>>>> MAPI perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem
>>>> that's preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rich Matheisen
>>>> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
>>>> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
>>>> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
>>>> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com
>>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com
>>>> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
>
>
>
> 



0
charlie
10/20/2006 1:26:26 PM
1=2E Was the issue ever reported to Microsoft's Sustained Engineering
team for Exchange 2003? via PSS incident reports, etc. If the issue
doesn't get reported, it certainly has no chance to get fixed. And no,
Microsoft cannot possibly scour the Web or newsgroups looking for user
bug reports; one has to report the bug to Microsoft.
2=2E Just because there is a bug does not mean it ever gets fixed. This
is a reality of the software industry that one has to accept.
3=2E Testing is never responsible for catching all issues. It should
catch the issues important to most users
4=2E "Fundamental" is completely relative.

I realize that when a bug affects a part of what you do, you consider
it fundamental because it blocks you, but you may be just the
unfortunate ten in a million who happen to find the other nine
sufferers and hence think the issue is fundamental when it is only
0=2E001% usage case.

I'm not trying to make light of the situation -- I'm just offering an
alternative view of the same information


//David
http://w3-4u.blogspot.com
//


charliebrown wrote:
> Just an update to let you know I have found a workaround for my problem.
>
> After doing a little bit of Google searches on this thread:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/=
3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
>
> I found out that it is just another Microsoft bug.
> I (also) don't understand why Microsoft does not acknowledge this bug, si=
nce
> it's pretty fundamental.
> How on earth did this get past beta testing???
>
> The workaround is as following:
>
> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
> Enable Cached mode and make sure you have the check box for "download pub=
lic
> folder favourites checked.
> Then add any public folder you want to view to the public folder favourit=
es.
> You can then view them from that location.
>
> I don't think this is a very good solution but until one is found, that
> should at least get to the point of viewing them.
> Hopefully an actual fix will come out soon*.
> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>
> Found the solution at:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm=
/thread/b667f45609998c5f/91f82ec6acda0e84?lnk=3Dst&q=3D&rnum=3D4&hl=3Dnl#91=
f82ec6acda0e84
>
> * Note that it was posted around November 6'th 2003 =3D=3D=3D> And still =
not any
> hotfix available from Microsoft!
> Don't think the will do so, since they already start beta testing of Offi=
ce
> 2007 and Exchange 2007 which do not have Public Folders by default.
> I understand Microsoft is "de-emphasizing" Public Folders.......... (why =
are
> the doing this.......)
>
> --
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
>   =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
>
> <charlie brown> schreef in bericht
> news:e1uGqG$zGHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Rich,
> >
> > The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.
> >
> > --
> >     =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
> >  =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
> >     =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
> >
> >
> > "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in beri=
cht
> > news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
> >> <charlie brown> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware not
> >>>able
> >>>to open the e-mails within in this folder.
> >>>Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
> >>>permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back again.
> >>
> >> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
> >>
> >> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should* be
> >> the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see what the
> >> NTFS permissions really are.
> >>
> >> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
> >>
> >> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
> >>
> >> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see in
> >> the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the MAPI
> >> perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem that's
> >> preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rich Matheisen
> >> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
> >> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> >> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
> >> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com
> >> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com
> >> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
> >
> >

0
w3.4you (4)
10/27/2006 11:53:43 AM
1=2E Was the issue ever reported to Microsoft's Sustained Engineering
team for Exchange 2003? via PSS incident reports, etc. If the issue
doesn't get reported, it certainly has no chance to get fixed. And no,
Microsoft cannot possibly scour the Web or newsgroups looking for user
bug reports; one has to report the bug to Microsoft.
2=2E Just because there is a bug does not mean it ever gets fixed. This
is a reality of the software industry that one has to accept.
3=2E Testing is never responsible for catching all issues. It should
catch the issues important to most users
4=2E "Fundamental" is completely relative.

I realize that when a bug affects a part of what you do, you consider
it fundamental because it blocks you, but you may be just the
unfortunate ten in a million who happen to find the other nine
sufferers and hence think the issue is fundamental when it is only
0=2E001% usage case.

I'm not trying to make light of the situation -- I'm just offering an
alternative view of the same information


//David
http://w3-4u.blogspot.com
//


charliebrown wrote:
> Just an update to let you know I have found a workaround for my problem.
>
> After doing a little bit of Google searches on this thread:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook/browse_frm/thread/=
3b2386aab163684c/8014cce2859581ab
>
> I found out that it is just another Microsoft bug.
> I (also) don't understand why Microsoft does not acknowledge this bug, si=
nce
> it's pretty fundamental.
> How on earth did this get past beta testing???
>
> The workaround is as following:
>
> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
> Enable Cached mode and make sure you have the check box for "download pub=
lic
> folder favourites checked.
> Then add any public folder you want to view to the public folder favourit=
es.
> You can then view them from that location.
>
> I don't think this is a very good solution but until one is found, that
> should at least get to the point of viewing them.
> Hopefully an actual fix will come out soon*.
> ** ** ** ** ** ** **
>
> Found the solution at:
> http://groups.google.nl/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_frm=
/thread/b667f45609998c5f/91f82ec6acda0e84?lnk=3Dst&q=3D&rnum=3D4&hl=3Dnl#91=
f82ec6acda0e84
>
> * Note that it was posted around November 6'th 2003 =3D=3D=3D> And still =
not any
> hotfix available from Microsoft!
> Don't think the will do so, since they already start beta testing of Offi=
ce
> 2007 and Exchange 2007 which do not have Public Folders by default.
> I understand Microsoft is "de-emphasizing" Public Folders.......... (why =
are
> the doing this.......)
>
> --
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
>   =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
>      =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
>
> <charlie brown> schreef in bericht
> news:e1uGqG$zGHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Rich,
> >
> > The NTFS permission are in line with the MAPI permissions.
> >
> > --
> >     =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(*=B7.=B8(`=B7.=B8 =B8.=B7=B4)=B8.=B7*).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
> >  =AB.............. CHARLIE ..............=BB
> >     =AB=B7=B4`=B7.(=B8.=B7=B4(=B8.=B7* *=B7.=B8)`=B7.=B8).=B7=B4`=B7=BB
> >
> >
> > "Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> schreef in beri=
cht
> > news:oqvlf2h672b8mb4gb7300nke4gpong4h9e@4ax.com...
> >> <charlie brown> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Have also tried to make some new folders as well. Still users ware not
> >>>able
> >>>to open the e-mails within in this folder.
> >>>Have also given the users Owner rights for one night, but once the
> >>>permissions where set back to Reviewer the problems where back again.
> >>
> >> Is there any chance you're working in Exchange mixed-mode?
> >>
> >> When you look at the Client Permissions you're seeing what *should* be
> >> the set of permissions. Try Ctrl+Click on that button and see what the
> >> NTFS permissions really are.
> >>
> >> Access control lists in Exchange public folders [330508]
> >>
> >> Don't change the permissions from there, though.
> >>
> >> If the permission NTFS perms you see don't agree with what you see in
> >> the MAPI perms you have a problem. That probmlem may be that the MAPI
> >> perms aren't in canonical order, or that there's a problem that's
> >> preventing the conversion of the mailbox names to SIDs.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rich Matheisen
> >> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
> >> MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
> >> Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
> >> Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com
> >> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com
> >> mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
> >
> >

0
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10/27/2006 11:54:53 AM
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Hi, We get a warning prompt while sending a mail with another emails as attachments. It says "outlook found potentially unsafe objects" message. All the attachments in the email are MSG format files. I know the procedure to allow unsafe file attachments but the error message says "unsafe objects". How do I allow sending mails with unsafe objects?? -Chandu If you try to send the same message in Plain Text format, do you still get that error? If so, there is probably an object within your message that is triggering the error. Things like Stationery and Si...