Installing XP over Linux - 140676

I am trying to install Windows XP on a Dell laptop that currently has Linux 
Ubuntu installed.  After booting up with the Windows CD in the drive, it 
loads various Windows files, but eventually stops on a blue screen message 
advising me to run CHKDSK, but won't respond after that.  I suspect that 
Windows is seeing the Linux partitions as disk corruption, but how can I get 
past this? 


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Kev
6/16/2010 11:18:05 PM
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"Kev" <ijk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
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>I am trying to install Windows XP on a Dell laptop that currently has Linux 
>Ubuntu installed.  After booting up with the Windows CD in the drive, it 
>loads various Windows files, but eventually stops on a blue screen message 
>advising me to run CHKDSK, but won't respond after that.  I suspect that 
>Windows is seeing the Linux partitions as disk corruption, but how can I 
>get past this?


There's this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458

 ... but if that doesn't work out I can highly recommend GParted:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
"The GParted application is a graphical partition editor for creating, 
reorganizing, and deleting disk partitions." 


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123Jim
6/16/2010 11:38:50 PM
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:18:05 +0100, Kev wrote:

> I am trying to install Windows XP on a Dell laptop that currently has
> Linux Ubuntu installed.  After booting up with the Windows CD in the
> drive, it loads various Windows files, but eventually stops on a blue
> screen message advising me to run CHKDSK, but won't respond after that. 
> I suspect that Windows is seeing the Linux partitions as disk
> corruption, but how can I get past this?

Are you using an Install XP CD or an Upgrade one or, maybe, a Restore?  
I'm guess that it's one of the latter two, since it seems the disk is 
looking for Windows on the hard drive or, possibly, a restore partition.  
Neither of which is there, and it thinks the hard drive is corrupted.

If you don't have a full Install Windows CD, you're not going to be able 
to install Windows.

Stef
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Stefan
6/17/2010 5:31:24 PM
> Are you using an Install XP CD or an Upgrade one or, maybe, a Restore?
> I'm guess that it's one of the latter two, since it seems the disk is
> looking for Windows on the hard drive or, possibly, a restore partition.
> Neither of which is there, and it thinks the hard drive is corrupted.
>
> If you don't have a full Install Windows CD, you're not going to be able
> to install Windows.

I was using a full installation Windows XP Pro CD.

By the way, I also have an installation CD for Windows 2003 Server.  I tried 
booting with this disk too and it produced the same result. 


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Kev
6/17/2010 6:35:11 PM
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:35:11 +0100, Kev wrote:

>> Are you using an Install XP CD or an Upgrade one or, maybe, a Restore?
>> I'm guess that it's one of the latter two, since it seems the disk is
>> looking for Windows on the hard drive or, possibly, a restore
>> partition. Neither of which is there, and it thinks the hard drive is
>> corrupted.
>>
>> If you don't have a full Install Windows CD, you're not going to be
>> able to install Windows.
> 
> I was using a full installation Windows XP Pro CD.
> 
> By the way, I also have an installation CD for Windows 2003 Server.  I
> tried booting with this disk too and it produced the same result.

Strange.

You mentioned in another post that the laptop in question was a Dell 
Studio 1537.  That model originally came with Vista.  See if you can find 
someone with a full Vista Install CD, and see if it boots up without the 
blue screen.  If it does, I'm thinking there's a hardware/driver issues 
with XP and 2003 Server.

You could try a "repair" CD to repartition and reformat the drive to 
something that Windows would definitely recognized.

Also, the hard drive in the 1537 is SATA.  XP and 2003 server are fairly 
old.  Could be that the SATA interface is the culprit.  Might be the 
graphics chip.  But in any case, if Ubuntu is running on it, Windows 
should, too.

Stef
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Stefan
6/18/2010 6:19:49 PM
> Also, the hard drive in the 1537 is SATA.  XP and 2003 server are fairly
> old.  Could be that the SATA interface is the culprit.  Might be the
> graphics chip.  But in any case, if Ubuntu is running on it, Windows
> should, too.

I am running XP on my main PC (a homebuilt desktop) with 3 SATA HDDs and it 
works fine.  The only minor issue with this is that the Safely Remove 
Hardware function lists the 3 HDDs as though they were removable devices. 
This is fine as long as I don't accidentally click on one of them and hit 
Remove! 


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Kev
6/18/2010 8:19:14 PM
> Also, the hard drive in the 1537 is SATA.  XP and 2003 server are fairly
> old.  Could be that the SATA interface is the culprit.  Might be the
> graphics chip.  But in any case, if Ubuntu is running on it, Windows
> should, too.

I am running XP on my main PC (a homebuilt desktop) with 3 SATA HDDs and it 
works fine.  The only minor issue with this is that the Safely Remove 
Hardware function lists the 3 HDDs as though they were removable devices. 
This is fine as long as I don't accidentally click on one of them and hit 
Remove! 


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Kev
6/18/2010 8:19:14 PM
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:19:14 +0100, Kev wrote:

>> Also, the hard drive in the 1537 is SATA.  XP and 2003 server are
>> fairly old.  Could be that the SATA interface is the culprit.  Might be
>> the graphics chip.  But in any case, if Ubuntu is running on it,
>> Windows should, too.
> 
> I am running XP on my main PC (a homebuilt desktop) with 3 SATA HDDs and
> it works fine.  The only minor issue with this is that the Safely Remove
> Hardware function lists the 3 HDDs as though they were removable
> devices. This is fine as long as I don't accidentally click on one of
> them and hit Remove!

Are the hard drives correctly identified in "My Computer"?  That is, as 
NOT removable?  Is there a C: drive?  The fact that XP "thinks" they are 
removable media is indicative of a problem.  At the very least, you 
should discover why.

Stef
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Stefan
6/19/2010 3:51:48 PM
> You could try a "repair" CD to repartition and reformat the drive to
> something that Windows would definitely recognized.
>
> Also, the hard drive in the 1537 is SATA.  XP and 2003 server are fairly
> old.  Could be that the SATA interface is the culprit.  Might be the
> graphics chip.  But in any case, if Ubuntu is running on it, Windows
> should, too.

Good call about SATA, Stef.  In the BIOS there are two settings for SATA 
drives: IDE and AHCI.  It was set to AHCI, so I changed it to IDE and tried 
booting up with the Windows XP disk again.  This time it worked and I 
successfully installed Windows.

Still not finished yet though.  Although Windows XP is up and running, there 
are some yellow items listed in Device Manager. 


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Kev
6/20/2010 5:23:01 PM
Kev wrote:
> Good call about SATA, Stef.  In the BIOS there are two settings for
> SATA drives: IDE and AHCI.  It was set to AHCI, so I changed it to
> IDE and tried booting up with the Windows XP disk again.  This time
> it worked and I successfully installed Windows.
>
> Still not finished yet though.  Although Windows XP is up and
> running, there are some yellow items listed in Device Manager.

Go to the manufacturer web sites for each of your hardware components and 
download the Windows XP drivers for the devices in your computer.

Some of the main ones will be:

- Network device(s) (likely how you will connect to the Internet and other 
computers.)
- Chipset (motherboard.)
- Video device(s).
- Audio device(s).
- Other hardware you may have attached internally and externally.

You will want to get the drivers from the manufacturer web pages.  If you 
are lucky - you can get most of them from one place (if this is a Dell, HP, 
Packard Bell, Gateway, Lenovo or other type of computer where you can go to 
a web page, enter your model number and select which OS you have and get the 
drivers appropriate for that system with a minimal of knowledge about what 
you actually purchased.)

-- 
Shenan Stanley
     MS-MVP
-- 
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 


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Shenan
6/20/2010 5:30:19 PM
>> I am running XP on my main PC (a homebuilt desktop) with 3 SATA HDDs and
>> it works fine.  The only minor issue with this is that the Safely Remove
>> Hardware function lists the 3 HDDs as though they were removable
>> devices. This is fine as long as I don't accidentally click on one of
>> them and hit Remove!
>
> Are the hard drives correctly identified in "My Computer"?  That is, as
> NOT removable?  Is there a C: drive?  The fact that XP "thinks" they are
> removable media is indicative of a problem.  At the very least, you
> should discover why.

They work as normal drives in Explorer and elsewhere, apart from in Safely 
Remove Hardware.  It's been like this for 3 years and it has never caused 
any problems (as far as I know).  I did post a question about it on a forum 
once, but nobody came up with any useful ideas. 


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Kev
6/20/2010 5:39:41 PM
> Go to the manufacturer web sites for each of your hardware components and 
> download the Windows XP drivers for the devices in your computer.
>
> Some of the main ones will be:
>
> - Network device(s) (likely how you will connect to the Internet and other 
> computers.)
> - Chipset (motherboard.)
> - Video device(s).
> - Audio device(s).
> - Other hardware you may have attached internally and externally.

It appears that WXP drivers for the graphics card (ATI HD3400) are 
non-existent.  Should I install Vista drivers instead or not install 
anything? 


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Kev
6/20/2010 10:55:10 PM
Kev wrote:
> It appears that WXP drivers for the graphics card (ATI HD3400) are
> non-existent.  Should I install Vista drivers instead or not install
> anything?

No.  You cannot use drivers for newer OSes on past OSes in most cases/unless 
specified. ;-)

Don't know where you looked - get the Display Drivers only - IMHO:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/radeonx-xp
(In the release notes, it says it supports the ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series.)

-- 
Shenan Stanley
     MS-MVP
-- 
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 


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Shenan
6/20/2010 11:32:02 PM
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Kev wrote:
>> It appears that WXP drivers for the graphics card (ATI HD3400) are
>> non-existent.  Should I install Vista drivers instead or not install
>> anything?
>
> No.  You cannot use drivers for newer OSes on past OSes in most
> cases/unless specified. ;-)

To Kev:

I've lost track. Which OS did you decide to install on your laptop? 


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Daave
6/21/2010 12:26:54 AM
> I've lost track. Which OS did you decide to install on your laptop?

Windows XP Pro

XP was my first choice, as I will be using this laptop primarily to run some 
particular specialist software that happens to run best on this o/s.  Vista 
might have been acceptable (albeit with some issues), but anyway I don't 
have a copy of Vista. 


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Kev
6/21/2010 6:39:22 AM
Kev wrote:
>> I've lost track. Which OS did you decide to install on your laptop?
>
> Windows XP Pro

Did you go to the Dell website and download all the correct XP drivers? 
What is the model and model number of this Dell laptop? 


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Daave
6/21/2010 12:14:37 PM
> Did you go to the Dell website and download all the correct XP drivers? 
> What is the model and model number of this Dell laptop?

Dell Studio 1537

The Dell website only has Vista drivers for this model.  I am having 
difficulty finding XP versions. 


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Kev
6/21/2010 5:58:29 PM
Kev wrote:
>> Did you go to the Dell website and download all the correct XP
>> drivers? What is the model and model number of this Dell laptop?
>
> Dell Studio 1537
>
> The Dell website only has Vista drivers for this model.  I am having
> difficulty finding XP versions.

You may not be able to run XP on it, then.

You can try posting to a Dell forum to see if other users have figured 
out how to do this. 


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Daave
6/21/2010 6:14:54 PM
"Kev" <ijk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
news:XKNTn.1313$k15.1309@hurricane...
>> Did you go to the Dell website and download all the correct XP drivers? 
>> What is the model and model number of this Dell laptop?
>
> Dell Studio 1537
>
> The Dell website only has Vista drivers for this model.  I am having 
> difficulty finding XP versions.

You could try this:
http://www.drivereasy.com/

It's free .. I think it's pretty good 


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123Jim
6/21/2010 6:15:32 PM
Kev wrote:
> Dell Studio 1537
>
> The Dell website only has Vista drivers for this model.  I am having
> difficulty finding XP versions.

That's because it is only supported by Dell with Vista on it...

However - read through this posting:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-inspiron-dell-studio/270228-installing-windows-xp-pro-studio-15-a-3.html

And see if you cannot locate (via keywords, etc) the drivers you need for 
each component on a piece-by-piece basis...  (Go through and read all the 
pages - 3 and after at least - as they have lots of information...)

-- 
Shenan Stanley
     MS-MVP
-- 
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 


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Shenan
6/21/2010 6:19:37 PM
> You could try this:
> http://www.drivereasy.com/
>
> It's free .. I think it's pretty good

Thanks, that was useful.

I have probably got most of hardware working now, the stuff that I need 
anyway.  It does not matter that the onboard audio is not working, as it 
would become redundant when I eventually get a 24-bit audio USB interface. 


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Kev
6/24/2010 8:00:41 AM
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:00:41 +0100, Kev wrote:

>> You could try this:
>> http://www.drivereasy.com/
>>
>> It's free .. I think it's pretty good
> 
> Thanks, that was useful.
> 
> I have probably got most of hardware working now, the stuff that I need
> anyway.  It does not matter that the onboard audio is not working, as it
> would become redundant when I eventually get a 24-bit audio USB
> interface.

If you have no need of the onboard audio, go into BIOS and turn it off, 
so no drivers are loaded and no RAM addresses are allotted for it, etc.  
Just a waste of resources otherwise.

Stef
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Stefan
6/24/2010 8:44:30 PM
>> I have probably got most of hardware working now, the stuff that I need
>> anyway.  It does not matter that the onboard audio is not working, as it
>> would become redundant when I eventually get a 24-bit audio USB
>> interface.
>
> If you have no need of the onboard audio, go into BIOS and turn it off,
> so no drivers are loaded and no RAM addresses are allotted for it, etc.
> Just a waste of resources otherwise.

I have already turned off a few unwanted things, e.g. Wireless.  But I can't 
find anything that refers to Audio anywhere in the BIOS.


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Kev
6/25/2010 12:25:43 AM
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:25:43 +0100, Kev wrote:

>>> I have probably got most of hardware working now, the stuff that I
>>> need anyway.  It does not matter that the onboard audio is not
>>> working, as it would become redundant when I eventually get a 24-bit
>>> audio USB interface.
>>
>> If you have no need of the onboard audio, go into BIOS and turn it off,
>> so no drivers are loaded and no RAM addresses are allotted for it, etc.
>> Just a waste of resources otherwise.
> 
> I have already turned off a few unwanted things, e.g. Wireless.  But I
> can't find anything that refers to Audio anywhere in the BIOS.

Try "Setup", if you have it, at boot time.  Most times, to get to Setup 
requires depressing and holding the Delete, Escape or some other key.  
Which one varies among manufacturers.  It usually says during or just 
after POST.

Stef
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Stefan
6/26/2010 4:38:28 AM
>> I have already turned off a few unwanted things, e.g. Wireless.  But I
>> can't find anything that refers to Audio anywhere in the BIOS.
>
> Try "Setup", if you have it, at boot time.  Most times, to get to Setup
> requires depressing and holding the Delete, Escape or some other key.
> Which one varies among manufacturers.  It usually says during or just
> after POST.

I can get into the BIOS by pressing F2, but audio doesn't seem to be listed. 
On my main PC (a desktop), it can be found under Onboard Devices > AC97, but 
there is no equivalent here. 


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Kev
6/26/2010 8:51:25 AM
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:51:25 +0100, Kev wrote:

>>> I have already turned off a few unwanted things, e.g. Wireless.  But I
>>> can't find anything that refers to Audio anywhere in the BIOS.
>>
>> Try "Setup", if you have it, at boot time.  Most times, to get to Setup
>> requires depressing and holding the Delete, Escape or some other key.
>> Which one varies among manufacturers.  It usually says during or just
>> after POST.
> 
> I can get into the BIOS by pressing F2, but audio doesn't seem to be
> listed. On my main PC (a desktop), it can be found under Onboard Devices
> > AC97, but there is no equivalent here.

I'm in the dark here since I have no idea of the make or model of your 
motherboard, but I've never come across a board with "built-in whatever," 
where "whatever" couldn't be disabled or turned off.

Check the user manual for your board.  Maybe, the audio is turned off by 
a jumper.

Stef
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Stefan
6/28/2010 5:29:11 AM
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when i did a restart, windows notified me it was installing updates and not to turn off the power as windows would restart itself. I keep getting a message the 2 of 3 updates installed. next says do not turn off computer.\\ well what do I do when the update never ends? TIA Snooky wrote: > when i did a restart, windows notified me it was installing updates > and not to turn off the power as windows would restart itself. > > I keep getting a message the 2 of 3 updates installed. next says > do not turn off computer.\\ > > well what do I do when the...

Office 2004 Mac install issue
Hi, Just visited a client with the following setup: 1 x brand new G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.4 1 x 2nd hand eMac 1 x copy of teacher version (3 licences) of Office 2004 Mac. The install on the iMac was faultless. The eMac is a different issue. As it was 2nd Hand we restored it to "out of the box" with the supplied DVD's (no old data remained on the machine). That brought it to 10.3.9. we then upgraded it to 10.4 using a fresh copy bought by the client. Trying to install Office the following happened. Using the setup assistant, the first screen was OK (telling us to be logge...

Installation of Money 04 with anti-virus
When I started to install Money 2004, I got a message saying that my McAfee Virus Scan might interfere with Money setup, and "can prevent you from using Money to download stock prices and other info..." Any advice? Take the message seriously. And search the archives of the newsgroup at http://groups.google.com; use advanced search and search newsgroup microsoft.public.money. "Clarence" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:08e201c3ce58$bc73dea0$a001280a@phx.gbl... > When I started to install Money 2004, I got a message > saying that my...

installing office home and student
I purchased a copy of office home and student and was wondering if I needed to uninstall the copy that came preinstalled on my computer before installing the new copy. This newsgroup is for questions and answers about Microsoft Access database software - Microsoft Access is not included in Office Home and Student. Even if you were asking about installing a version of Office that does include Microsoft Access, you would be better served by asking your question in a newsgroup devoted to Office. That said, it is often beneficial to uninstall an existing copy (esp. a trial copy)...

Installation
Hi, Do i need to have exchange and SQL run on the same server as the CRM package? Is Office 2003 compatible? Would appreciate some guideline to install CRM on a machine that doesn't have exchange and/or SQL running, instead, the exchange and sql database services run on a different machine within the same forest. Does the CRM server need to have Active Directory Installed? Thanks, Ash Ash Microsoft CRM needs to be installed on a server that is part of a windows 2000 or now 2003 Active Directory enabled domain. SQL and exchange do not need to be on the same machine. In fact CRM can ...