Mixing Visual Studio 6 with Visual Studio .NET
Hi All - I fully expect the answer to this to be "why would you even ask this question"; so, donning my flame retardant underwear :-) .... We have a product that is built (compiled and linked) using Visual Studio 6. In that product, we provide a facility for our end users to construct their own add-on DLLs. One of our customers has approached us with a requirement that the add-on DLLs be built using Visual Studio .NET. Their corporate IT department has standardized on the .NET development platform and will not allow anyone in the company to install VS6. The entry point interfaces between our product and the add-on DLLs are all declared as 'extern "c" ... APIENTRY', so we shouldn't have a basic call interface problem. However, the parameters we are passing to those interfaces are MFC objects such as CString and CArray and classes containing some of those. Since VS6 and VS.NET don't implement those objects the same way, we have a problem. It looks to me like we have three alternatives: 1) Build our product using .NET; 2) Find a way for the customers to build their DLLs using VS6; 3) Stop sending MFC objects across the call interface. I'm partial to (3), but another one of our developers is not. So, I'm looking to see if anyone has a fourth idea. Thanks for your help! --- tom tom allebrandi tom@ytram.com
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1. is the "easy" solution for the customer. Painful for you because the IDE sucks, but easy for the customer. 2. You are fighting a customer's IT department. Remember these are populated largely by people who love to control other people by applying absurd standards which fly in the face of common sense (one client I have has an IT depart that is (a) ubelievably concerned about security and (b) mandates the use of FAT32 on all NT systems. Do you see fundamental stupidity at work here...?). Lots of luck, but probably impossible. 3. This could be really painful. It means you have to rewrite all your DLLs to not use MFC, which could impose a lot of problems (unless you are only passing CStrings as LPCTSTRs, but that seems too optimistic a scenario). The question is, since I think (2) is impossible, you are left with (1) and (3). The problem with (3) is that you incur a lot of long-term development costs (losing MFC flexibility), short term costs (converting and testing the DLLs), and very little gain except the continued happiness of one customer. (1) may be the best long-term solution, even if you only do the builds occasionally in VS7, because people without good taste are abandoning VS6, or for good solid technical reasons must move to VS7. Eventually we will be in a VS7 world, so (1) will have to be done anyway, so why not do it now? [My hope is that a decent VS interface will be out before I am forced to abandon VS6, but for now I have only one client who uses it because of serious technical reasons--features in VS7 that do not exist in VS6 are essential to their product]. Besides, it is better to discover any problems in the VS7 build when you have only one customer making the request, instead of having to enter panic mode when a majority of customers suddenly require it Right Now No Kidding! joe On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:30:18 -0500, Tom Allebrandi <Tom@Ytram.Com> wrote: >Hi All - > >I fully expect the answer to this to be "why would you even ask this >question"; so, donning my flame retardant underwear :-) .... > >We have a product that is built (compiled and linked) using Visual >Studio 6. In that product, we provide a facility for our end users to >construct their own add-on DLLs. > >One of our customers has approached us with a requirement that the >add-on DLLs be built using Visual Studio .NET. Their corporate IT >department has standardized on the .NET development platform and will >not allow anyone in the company to install VS6. > >The entry point interfaces between our product and the add-on DLLs are >all declared as 'extern "c" ... APIENTRY', so we shouldn't have a >basic call interface problem. > >However, the parameters we are passing to those interfaces are MFC >objects such as CString and CArray and classes containing some of >those. Since VS6 and VS.NET don't implement those objects the same >way, we have a problem. > >It looks to me like we have three alternatives: > >1) Build our product using .NET; > >2) Find a way for the customers to build their DLLs using VS6; > >3) Stop sending MFC objects across the call interface. > >I'm partial to (3), but another one of our developers is not. > >So, I'm looking to see if anyone has a fourth idea. > >Thanks for your help! > >--- tom >tom allebrandi >tom@ytram.com Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP] email: newcomer@flounder.com Web: http://www.flounder.com MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm
newcomerI like the idea of not passing MFC objects around. If you don't want to take that big of a hit though. Maybe you could have entry points that take CString (for backward compatibility) and write some new ones that take LPCTSTR's for newer customers working on newer platforms. Then, the CString version of your API would just call the LPCTSTR version (or vica-versa) if it makes sense to do so. "Tom Allebrandi" <Tom@Ytram.Com> wrote in message news:9im430l7oig19oki5o5jj9l13q1pbqtgjr@4ax.com... > Hi All - > > I fully expect the answer to this to be "why would you even ask this > question"; so, donning my flame retardant underwear :-) .... > > We have a product that is built (compiled and linked) using Visual > Studio 6. In that product, we provide a facility for our end users to > construct their own add-on DLLs. > > One of our customers has approached us with a requirement that the > add-on DLLs be built using Visual Studio .NET. Their corporate IT > department has standardized on the .NET development platform and will > not allow anyone in the company to install VS6. > > The entry point interfaces between our product and the add-on DLLs are > all declared as 'extern "c" ... APIENTRY', so we shouldn't have a > basic call interface problem. > > However, the parameters we are passing to those interfaces are MFC > objects such as CString and CArray and classes containing some of > those. Since VS6 and VS.NET don't implement those objects the same > way, we have a problem. > > It looks to me like we have three alternatives: > > 1) Build our product using .NET; > > 2) Find a way for the customers to build their DLLs using VS6; > > 3) Stop sending MFC objects across the call interface. > > I'm partial to (3), but another one of our developers is not. > > So, I'm looking to see if anyone has a fourth idea. > > Thanks for your help! > > --- tom > tom allebrandi > tom@ytram.com
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In article news:<9im430l7oig19oki5o5jj9l13q1pbqtgjr@4ax.com>, Tom Allebrandi wrote: > We have a product that is built (compiled and linked) using Visual > Studio 6. In that product, we provide a facility for our end users to > construct their own add-on DLLs. > > One of our customers has approached us with a requirement that the > add-on DLLs be built using Visual Studio .NET. Inevitably ... > It looks to me like we have three alternatives: > > 1) Build our product using .NET; > > 2) Find a way for the customers to build their DLLs using VS6; > > 3) Stop sending MFC objects across the call interface. Um. 4) write a wrapper (in VC6) that will allow your application to call an add-in DLL through a pure C interface (which you will have to define and publish). Your customers can then use VC7.1 (or any other compiler/language that can generate a DLL) to write a DLL that implements the pure C interface, and your application can call it through the wrapper. 5) As above, but require the customer to implement the add-on using COM interfaces. Cheers, Daniel.
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