how to find out code

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My MFC app crashed in module msvcrt.dll at 001b:77c37098. What can I do to 
find out what is on that address?

Thank you
Vaclav 


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> My MFC app crashed in module msvcrt.dll at 001b:77c37098. What can I do to
> find out what is on that address?
>

Its likely because something wrong was passed to it which caused it.
Typically when you debug you will be able to pinpoint the cause as you
will have the stack to see what parameters you are passing etc. Debug
the app and see if you can reproduce it.

---
Ajay

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ajaykalra (6842)
11/23/2006 3:41:19 PM
It happened on the customer's PC. The app generated a crash dump and the 
customer sent it to me. The bug is not reproducable.

Thanks anyway
Vaclav



"Ajay Kalra" <ajaykalra@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1164296479.199562.225680@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> My MFC app crashed in module msvcrt.dll at 001b:77c37098. What can I do 
>> to
>> find out what is on that address?
>>
>
> Its likely because something wrong was passed to it which caused it.
> Typically when you debug you will be able to pinpoint the cause as you
> will have the stack to see what parameters you are passing etc. Debug
> the app and see if you can reproduce it.
>
> ---
> Ajay
> 


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11/23/2006 4:59:38 PM
was exception thrown ...... you can take a look at that and the method with 
the exception block ...... i guess you can narrow down things ....
"Vaclav Jedlicka" <vjedlicka@atlas.cz> wrote in message 
news:eGGJEDyDHHA.952@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> It happened on the customer's PC. The app generated a crash dump and the 
> customer sent it to me. The bug is not reproducable.
>
> Thanks anyway
> Vaclav
>
>
>
> "Ajay Kalra" <ajaykalra@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:1164296479.199562.225680@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> My MFC app crashed in module msvcrt.dll at 001b:77c37098. What can I do 
>>> to
>>> find out what is on that address?
>>>
>>
>> Its likely because something wrong was passed to it which caused it.
>> Typically when you debug you will be able to pinpoint the cause as you
>> will have the stack to see what parameters you are passing etc. Debug
>> the app and see if you can reproduce it.
>>
>> ---
>> Ajay
>>
>
> 


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mubi (159)
11/23/2006 5:17:28 PM
"Vaclav Jedlicka" <vjedlicka@atlas.cz> wrote in message 
news:eGGJEDyDHHA.952@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> It happened on the customer's PC. The app generated a crash dump and the 
> customer sent it to me. The bug is not reproducable.
>
> Thanks anyway
> Vaclav
>

Have your customer run DrWtsn32.exe (in C:\windows or C:\windows\system32) 
and configure it to create a mini dump file with symbols.  This creates a 
rather large .dmp file, but if he sends it to you, you can load it into 
Visual Studio and see the stack and state as if it had crashed on your own 
machine.  Very nice.

You can also send debug builds of DLL's and EXE's that are in the callstack 
and if they can repro the crash with those and send you the .dmp file, you 
will have full symbolic source available, including current values of global 
and local variables.  Again, just as if the debug build had crashed on your 
own machine.

-- David


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dc2983 (3206)
11/23/2006 6:43:53 PM
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:08:58 +0100, Vaclav Jedlicka wrote:

>My MFC app crashed in module msvcrt.dll at 001b:77c37098. What can I do to 
>find out what is on that address?

To have any hope of finding this you need a call stack, so you can
trace where you called into the C runtime (by default your program
loads at virtual address 400000h, so look for the first address in
that range reading backwards on the stack). 

DrWatson creates crash log files which contain a call stack. As David
says, you can either get a crash dump, or manually read the call stack
addresses from the DRWTSN32.LOG file created by Dr Watson. DrWatson
dumps its log files in the Documents and Settings/All Users hierarchy.

I often find though that with C runtime errors like this, DrWatson
logs don't get created. I have no idea why.

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Bob
11/23/2006 10:13:37 PM
The debugger will tell you.  If you loaded the C runtime source you'll even see the source
line that caused it.
				joe
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:08:58 +0100, "Vaclav Jedlicka" <vjedlicka@atlas.cz> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>My MFC app crashed in module msvcrt.dll at 001b:77c37098. What can I do to 
>find out what is on that address?
>
>Thank you
>Vaclav 
>
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newcomer (15972)
11/23/2006 10:53:29 PM
Does it mean I can put a breakpoint in module msvcrt.dll at
001b:77c37098? If yes,can you please suggest how?

Thank you
Vaclav

btw this is the callstack I can see using WinDbg

  *** Stack trace for last set context - .thread/.cxr resets it
ChildEBP RetAddr  Args to Child
0012f894 727f9081 00000598 0012f8d0 00000008 msvcrt!memcpy+0x128
Unable to load image C:\Program Files\ProfiCAD\ProfiCAD.exe, Win32
error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ProfiCAD.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for
ProfiCAD.exe
0012f8b4 0041b381 0012f8d0 00000008 0012f8e4
mfc42u!CArchive::Write+0x29
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may
be wrong.
0012f8c4 004184bd 0012f984 00c5f878 00000004 ProfiCAD+0x1b381
0012f8e4 0040bdb8 0012f984 00000000 00bbbb80 ProfiCAD+0x184bd
0012f914 004224cf 0012f984 00bbc190 fffffffe ProfiCAD+0xbdb8
0012f9c0 727fc95f 0012f9d0 00000000 7289ab1c ProfiCAD+0x224cf
0012fa34 727f1fa5 00bbc190 00bbc190 00153848 mfc42u!CView::OnPaint+0x43
0012faac 727f1c8a 0000000f 00000000 7289b690
mfc42u!CWnd::OnWndMsg+0x2f4
0012facc 727f1bf4 0000000f 00000000 00000000
mfc42u!CWnd::WindowProc+0x24
0012fb2c 727f1b47 00bbc190 00000000 0000000f mfc42u!AfxCallWndProc+0x91
0012fb4c 7288724e 00c403de 0000000f 00000000 mfc42u!AfxWndProc+0x36
0012fb78 77d38734 00c403de 0000000f 00000000 mfc42u!AfxWndProcBase+0x39
0012fba4 77d38816 72887215 00c403de 0000000f
user32!InternalCallWinProc+0x28
0012fc0c 77d3c63f 00000000 72887215 00c403de
user32!UserCallWinProcCheckWow+0x150
0012fc3c 77d3c665 72887215 00c403de 0000000f
user32!CallWindowProcAorW+0x98
0012fc5c 004307d6 72887215 00c403de 0000000f
user32!CallWindowProcW+0x1b
0012fc84 00432514 0000000f 00000000 00000000 ProfiCAD+0x307d6
0012fd04 004308eb 0000000f 00000000 00000000 ProfiCAD+0x32514
0012fd4c 77d38734 00c403de 0000000f 00000000 ProfiCAD+0x308eb
0012fd78 77d38816 0043081d 00c403de 0000000f
user32!InternalCallWinProc+0x28

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11/24/2006 12:09:42 PM
Well, part of the problem is that you reported a "crash", which is a pretty meaningless
statement.  What you probab ly meant to say was that "My program took an access fault
reading location thus-and-such", which would at least be informative.  There is nothing
more useless than reporting "a crash" without all the important information associated
with the reason for the program termination.  If this is happening at a customer site, you
have to train your customers to report the bug properly.

It is extremely obvious what went wrong.  You gave a source address to memcpy of 8.  This
is so obviously an illegal address that the assumption is that you had a NULL pointer.
This represents a bug in your program.

I would suggest scattering a lot of ASSERT(ptr != NULL) calls throughout your code, for
various values of ptr, and each one is followed by a test that does graceful recovery,
e.g.,
	ASSERT(ptr != NULL);
	if(ptr == NULL)
                    graceful recovery here;

I am always very suspicious of memcpy.  I use it very sparingly; far too many people use
it as a way of life.  Since it was called directly by your program, I wonder why you are
using it.  If you are not coding it directly, then the problem is still that you have
passed a NULL pointer into some low-level library that is using memcpy, and ultimately the
problem is still the NULL pointer,

THe reason it can't load the symbols is that you are probably debugging a release version.
I consider it a deep and fundamental flaw that VS defaults to "no symbol table" on release
mode; when you are releasing to a customer, you MUST create a symbol table so you can
analyze the crash dumps when they are returned.  You should also investigate the Symbol
Server.  Note that the symbol table you create for your release version must be archived
with your source in your source control system so that you can retrieve the correct symbol
table (the one used for the release, not the one associated with a rebuild of the release,
because the timestamps will be different).  

You could set a breakppoint at the location, but why?  It is clear that if you take the
breakpoint, the damage is already done, but since you say that the bug is not
reproducible, or at least you are not using the same data as your customer, then setting
the breakpoint isn't going to do any good anyway because you won't hit it.  And setting it
on the customer machine is problematic.

Key here is to write code that doesn't assume that all pointers are valid at all times.
						joe


On 24 Nov 2006 04:09:42 -0800, "vjedlicka@atlas.cz" <vjedlicka@atlas.cz> wrote:

>Does it mean I can put a breakpoint in module msvcrt.dll at
>001b:77c37098? If yes,can you please suggest how?
>
>Thank you
>Vaclav
>
>btw this is the callstack I can see using WinDbg
>
>  *** Stack trace for last set context - .thread/.cxr resets it
>ChildEBP RetAddr  Args to Child
>0012f894 727f9081 00000598 0012f8d0 00000008 msvcrt!memcpy+0x128
>Unable to load image C:\Program Files\ProfiCAD\ProfiCAD.exe, Win32
>error 2
>*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ProfiCAD.exe
>*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for
>ProfiCAD.exe
>0012f8b4 0041b381 0012f8d0 00000008 0012f8e4
>mfc42u!CArchive::Write+0x29
>WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may
>be wrong.
>0012f8c4 004184bd 0012f984 00c5f878 00000004 ProfiCAD+0x1b381
>0012f8e4 0040bdb8 0012f984 00000000 00bbbb80 ProfiCAD+0x184bd
>0012f914 004224cf 0012f984 00bbc190 fffffffe ProfiCAD+0xbdb8
>0012f9c0 727fc95f 0012f9d0 00000000 7289ab1c ProfiCAD+0x224cf
>0012fa34 727f1fa5 00bbc190 00bbc190 00153848 mfc42u!CView::OnPaint+0x43
>0012faac 727f1c8a 0000000f 00000000 7289b690
>mfc42u!CWnd::OnWndMsg+0x2f4
>0012facc 727f1bf4 0000000f 00000000 00000000
>mfc42u!CWnd::WindowProc+0x24
>0012fb2c 727f1b47 00bbc190 00000000 0000000f mfc42u!AfxCallWndProc+0x91
>0012fb4c 7288724e 00c403de 0000000f 00000000 mfc42u!AfxWndProc+0x36
>0012fb78 77d38734 00c403de 0000000f 00000000 mfc42u!AfxWndProcBase+0x39
>0012fba4 77d38816 72887215 00c403de 0000000f
>user32!InternalCallWinProc+0x28
>0012fc0c 77d3c63f 00000000 72887215 00c403de
>user32!UserCallWinProcCheckWow+0x150
>0012fc3c 77d3c665 72887215 00c403de 0000000f
>user32!CallWindowProcAorW+0x98
>0012fc5c 004307d6 72887215 00c403de 0000000f
>user32!CallWindowProcW+0x1b
>0012fc84 00432514 0000000f 00000000 00000000 ProfiCAD+0x307d6
>0012fd04 004308eb 0000000f 00000000 00000000 ProfiCAD+0x32514
>0012fd4c 77d38734 00c403de 0000000f 00000000 ProfiCAD+0x308eb
>0012fd78 77d38816 0043081d 00c403de 0000000f
>user32!InternalCallWinProc+0x28
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newcomer (15972)
11/24/2006 1:27:55 PM
Thank you for your explanation!
Vaclav

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11/24/2006 9:21:59 PM
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