I still have WindowsXP SP3 on my home computer and used Outlook Express 
for until Microsoft forced my hand by changing Hotmail to make it 
incompatible with OE.  I now have OE and Windows Live Mail using Live Mail 
purely for my Hotmail mail.  I frequent binary picture newsgroup to see the 
images posted and OE couldn't decode binaries posted in Yenc format ( .jpg 
binaries ) and it's handling of non Yenc encoded  multi-part attachments was 
crude if possible at all.  When trying those groups in Windows Live Mail, it 
is no better at this than OE.  I don't know is a conscious decision of 
Microsoft's developers to discourage people from using binary attachments 
due to paranoia about  any binary attachment.  The Yenc encoding has spread 
like wildfire in Usenet binary groups and a lot of even  small files like 
..jpg that offer no space saving show up that way   I use Forte Agent to 
handle most all groups with multi-part or Yenc posts but it isn't as 
practical for text or to just sample a group of photo posts and I don't use 
it for mail.
Herb 

"Cyborg-HAF" <Cyborg_HAF@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:uuSdnYXB9oXYDTvWnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>    I still have WindowsXP SP3 on my home computer and used Outlook Express 
> for until Microsoft forced my hand by changing Hotmail to make it 
> incompatible with OE.  I now have OE and Windows Live Mail using Live Mail 
> purely for my Hotmail mail.  I frequent binary picture newsgroup to see 
> the images posted and OE couldn't decode binaries posted in Yenc format 
> ( .jpg binaries ) and it's handling of non Yenc encoded  multi-part 
> attachments was crude if possible at all.  When trying those groups in 
> Windows Live Mail, it is no better at this than OE.  I don't know is a 
> conscious decision of Microsoft's developers to discourage people from 
> using binary attachments due to paranoia about  any binary attachment. 
> The Yenc encoding has spread like wildfire in Usenet binary groups and a 
> lot of even  small files like .jpg that offer no space saving show up that 
> way   I use Forte Agent to handle most all groups with multi-part or Yenc 
> posts but it isn't as practical for text or to just sample a group of 
> photo posts and I don't use it for mail.
> Herb
>

yProxy is still around and works with WLM. 

I don't see Microsoft making any improvements in binary newsgroup 
support.  It don't expect it has anything to do paranoia, but rather 
that only a very small portion of their customer base has any interest 
in binaries and so it's not worth the Microsoft resource investment.

As another poster mentioned, there are yEnc proxy programs that will add 
support with just about any news reader.

-- 

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Cyborg-HAF" <Cyborg_HAF@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:uuSdnYXB9oXYDTvWnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>    I still have WindowsXP SP3 on my home computer and used Outlook 
> Express for until Microsoft forced my hand by changing Hotmail to make 
> it incompatible with OE.  I now have OE and Windows Live Mail using 
> Live Mail purely for my Hotmail mail.  I frequent binary picture 
> newsgroup to see the images posted and OE couldn't decode binaries 
> posted in Yenc format ( .jpg binaries ) and it's handling of non Yenc 
> encoded  multi-part attachments was crude if possible at all.  When 
> trying those groups in Windows Live Mail, it is no better at this than 
> OE.  I don't know is a conscious decision of Microsoft's developers to 
> discourage people from using binary attachments due to paranoia about 
> any binary attachment.  The Yenc encoding has spread like wildfire in 
> Usenet binary groups and a lot of even  small files like .jpg that 
> offer no space saving show up that way   I use Forte Agent to handle 
> most all groups with multi-part or Yenc posts but it isn't as 
> practical for text or to just sample a group of photo posts and I 
> don't use it for mail.
> Herb
> 

    I use Forte Agent for most of my binary groups, at least the ones with 
multi-part attachments.  I did prefer Outlook Express and now Windows Live 
Mail for browsing photo image groups since I can view images without saving 
them unless I wanted to save a copy while Agent requires me to save them to 
my hard-drive before I can view them and have to delete all I don't want to 
save.  A number of posters in the picture groups now use Yenc Encoding to 
post and I have to move the groups to Agent to see all posts.  I guess I'll 
only use Windows Live Mail for reading my Hotmail and text newsgroups only.
Herb

"Michael Santovec" <michael@santovec.XXX> wrote in message 
news:edB3YkfyKHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> I don't see Microsoft making any improvements in binary newsgroup support. 
> It don't expect it has anything to do paranoia, but rather that only a 
> very small portion of their customer base has any interest in binaries and 
> so it's not worth the Microsoft resource investment.
>
> As another poster mentioned, there are yEnc proxy programs that will add 
> support with just about any news reader.
>
> -- 
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "Cyborg-HAF" <Cyborg_HAF@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:uuSdnYXB9oXYDTvWnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>    I still have WindowsXP SP3 on my home computer and used Outlook 
>> Express for until Microsoft forced my hand by changing Hotmail to make it 
>> incompatible with OE.  I now have OE and Windows Live Mail using Live 
>> Mail purely for my Hotmail mail.  I frequent binary picture newsgroup to 
>> see the images posted and OE couldn't decode binaries posted in Yenc 
>> format ( .jpg binaries ) and it's handling of non Yenc encoded 
>> multi-part attachments was crude if possible at all.  When trying those 
>> groups in Windows Live Mail, it is no better at this than OE.  I don't 
>> know is a conscious decision of Microsoft's developers to discourage 
>> people from using binary attachments due to paranoia about any binary 
>> attachment.  The Yenc encoding has spread like wildfire in Usenet binary 
>> groups and a lot of even  small files like .jpg that offer no space 
>> saving show up that way   I use Forte Agent to handle most all groups 
>> with multi-part or Yenc posts but it isn't as practical for text or to 
>> just sample a group of photo posts and I don't use it for mail.
>> Herb
>>
>