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Hello!

I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
I always get an error when trying to send mails:
An unknown error has occurred.

Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 465
Secure(SSL): Yes

Here's my setup:
Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use 
same settings as my incoming mail server"
Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)

Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png

I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.

Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in 
WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png

Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?

Thanks

P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo in 
the German Win version.

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Reply Phil 7/17/2010 7:52:26 PM

I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
(which WLMdoes support), see
http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/

Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Hello!

I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
I always get an error when trying to send mails:
An unknown error has occurred.

Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 465
Secure(SSL): Yes

Here's my setup:
Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
same settings as my incoming mail server"
Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)

Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png

I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.

Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png

Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?

Thanks

P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo in
the German Win version. 


0
Reply Gary 7/17/2010 9:05:26 PM


There is no specific STARTLS setting in WLM.  Just check the SSL box.

Did you try port 587?

Was there any more to the error message?  Often there is also a Socket 
Error code further down.  You might need to scroll the error dialog 
window.

0x800CCC0B   = Server or maildrop is busy.

Might another program, PC, or device be trying to access the same 
account at the same time?

Within WLM, look at
 - Tools (ALT+T), Options, General, Check for new messages every xx 
minutes
 - Tools, Options, Send, Send Immediately

If Both of them are checked, uncheck one of them.

-- 

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message 
news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello!
>
> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
> An unknown error has occurred.
>
> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 465
> Secure(SSL): Yes
>
> Here's my setup:
> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and 
> "Use same settings as my incoming mail server"
> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>
> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>
> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>
> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work 
> in WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>
> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit 
> IMAP?
>
> Thanks
>
> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge 
> typo in the German Win version.
> 

0
Reply Michael 7/17/2010 9:05:36 PM

Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.

Error message:
The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's 
e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.

Subject 'Test 587'
Server Error: 530
Server Response: 530 Authentication required
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 587
Secure(SSL): No

"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message 
news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
(which WLMdoes support), see
http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/

Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Hello!

I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
I always get an error when trying to send mails:
An unknown error has occurred.

Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 465
Secure(SSL): Yes

Here's my setup:
Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
same settings as my incoming mail server"
Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)

Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png

I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.

Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png

Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?

Thanks

P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo in
the German Win version.

0
Reply Phil 7/18/2010 1:42:27 AM

Thank you too for your suggestions.
I tried port 587 with and without SSL. It didn't work either.
I also unchecked one of your suggested options.

Unfortunately the error message doesn't say more.

Thanks for your help though.

"Michael Santovec"  wrote in message 
news:upraQPfJLHA.1996@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

There is no specific STARTLS setting in WLM.  Just check the SSL box.

Did you try port 587?

Was there any more to the error message?  Often there is also a Socket
Error code further down.  You might need to scroll the error dialog
window.

0x800CCC0B   = Server or maildrop is busy.

Might another program, PC, or device be trying to access the same
account at the same time?

Within WLM, look at
- Tools (ALT+T), Options, General, Check for new messages every xx
minutes
- Tools, Options, Send, Send Immediately

If Both of them are checked, uncheck one of them.

-- 

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello!
>
> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
> An unknown error has occurred.
>
> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 465
> Secure(SSL): Yes
>
> Here's my setup:
> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use 
> same settings as my incoming mail server"
> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>
> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>
> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>
> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in 
> WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>
> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?
>
> Thanks
>
> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo 
> in the German Win version.
> 
0
Reply Phil 7/18/2010 1:45:51 AM

Make sure you have send authentication enabled when using port 587.
Go to Tools, Accounts, select that account, Properties, Servers.
Enable the "My server requires authentication" option.

If that setting was already checked, call the University help desk for advice.
It may be that they don't allow off-campus access.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:eMl#9rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.

Error message:
The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's
e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.

Subject 'Test 587'
Server Error: 530
Server Response: 530 Authentication required
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 587
Secure(SSL): No

"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
(which WLMdoes support), see
http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/

Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Hello!

I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
I always get an error when trying to send mails:
An unknown error has occurred.

Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 465
Secure(SSL): Yes

Here's my setup:
Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
same settings as my incoming mail server"
Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)

Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png

I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.

Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png

Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?

Thanks

P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo in
the German Win version. 


0
Reply Gary 7/18/2010 2:10:32 AM

Here are the Windows Mail setup instructions (in German) for your mail 
server (Windows Live Mail should be closely similar).

http://www.univie.ac.at/ZID/anleitungen-mailing/windowsmail/

http://www.univie.ac.at/ZID/anleitungen-mailing/

Does this help?


"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message 
news:#H#Z#rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you too for your suggestions.
> I tried port 587 with and without SSL. It didn't work either.
> I also unchecked one of your suggested options.
>
> Unfortunately the error message doesn't say more.
>
> Thanks for your help though.
>
> "Michael Santovec"  wrote in message 
> news:upraQPfJLHA.1996@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> There is no specific STARTLS setting in WLM.  Just check the SSL box.
>
> Did you try port 587?
>
> Was there any more to the error message?  Often there is also a Socket
> Error code further down.  You might need to scroll the error dialog
> window.
>
> 0x800CCC0B   = Server or maildrop is busy.
>
> Might another program, PC, or device be trying to access the same
> account at the same time?
>
> Within WLM, look at
> - Tools (ALT+T), Options, General, Check for new messages every xx
> minutes
> - Tools, Options, Send, Send Immediately
>
> If Both of them are checked, uncheck one of them.
>
> -- 
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hello!
>>
>> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
>> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
>> An unknown error has occurred.
>>
>> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
>> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
>> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
>> Protocol: SMTP
>> Port: 465
>> Secure(SSL): Yes
>>
>> Here's my setup:
>> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
>> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and 
>> "Use same settings as my incoming mail server"
>> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>>
>> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
>> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>>
>> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>>
>> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in 
>> WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
>> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>>
>> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo 
>> in the German Win version.
>> 

0
Reply Magnus 7/18/2010 2:14:20 AM

Yeah, that setting is already checked.

Off-campus access is allowed since everything works with Thunderbird on the 
same machine (both ports 587 and 465).

Anyone knows how I can remove my IP-address from a Wireshark log? Then I 
could upload the Wireshark logs from Thunderbird and WLM if someone's 
interested.
The only thing I can recognize is that protocol TLSv1 is used and the log 
from WLM shows some red lines.

If WLM really doesn't support TLS then this might be the problem. But I 
checked now Wireshark when receiving mails and there's also TLSv1 used and 
receiving mails works.
I really don't know what's wrong. Maybe it has something to do with the red 
lines in Wireshark.

Here's one example: Acknowledgement number: Broken TCP. The acknowledge 
field is nonzero while the ACK flag is not set


"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message 
news:OPq6j5hJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Make sure you have send authentication enabled when using port 587.
Go to Tools, Accounts, select that account, Properties, Servers.
Enable the "My server requires authentication" option.

If that setting was already checked, call the University help desk for 
advice.
It may be that they don't allow off-campus access.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:eMl#9rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.

Error message:
The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's
e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.

Subject 'Test 587'
Server Error: 530
Server Response: 530 Authentication required
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 587
Secure(SSL): No

"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
(which WLMdoes support), see
http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/

Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Hello!

I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
I always get an error when trying to send mails:
An unknown error has occurred.

Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 465
Secure(SSL): Yes

Here's my setup:
Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
same settings as my incoming mail server"
Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)

Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png

I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.

Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png

Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?

Thanks

P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo in
the German Win version.

0
Reply Phil 7/18/2010 2:57:19 AM

Thanks!
Those are the instructions I used in first place to setup the account. But 
it doesn't work in WLM, only in Thunderbird.

"Magnus"  wrote in message news:OlpF07hJLHA.4824@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

Here are the Windows Mail setup instructions (in German) for your mail
server (Windows Live Mail should be closely similar).

http://www.univie.ac.at/ZID/anleitungen-mailing/windowsmail/

http://www.univie.ac.at/ZID/anleitungen-mailing/

Does this help?


"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:#H#Z#rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thank you too for your suggestions.
> I tried port 587 with and without SSL. It didn't work either.
> I also unchecked one of your suggested options.
>
> Unfortunately the error message doesn't say more.
>
> Thanks for your help though.
>
> "Michael Santovec"  wrote in message 
> news:upraQPfJLHA.1996@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> There is no specific STARTLS setting in WLM.  Just check the SSL box.
>
> Did you try port 587?
>
> Was there any more to the error message?  Often there is also a Socket
> Error code further down.  You might need to scroll the error dialog
> window.
>
> 0x800CCC0B   = Server or maildrop is busy.
>
> Might another program, PC, or device be trying to access the same
> account at the same time?
>
> Within WLM, look at
> - Tools (ALT+T), Options, General, Check for new messages every xx
> minutes
> - Tools, Options, Send, Send Immediately
>
> If Both of them are checked, uncheck one of them.
>
> -- 
>
> Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>
>
>
> "Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hello!
>>
>> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
>> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
>> An unknown error has occurred.
>>
>> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
>> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
>> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
>> Protocol: SMTP
>> Port: 465
>> Secure(SSL): Yes
>>
>> Here's my setup:
>> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
>> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and 
>> "Use same settings as my incoming mail server"
>> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>>
>> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
>> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>>
>> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>>
>> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in 
>> WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
>> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>>
>> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo 
>> in the German Win version.
>> 
0
Reply Phil 7/18/2010 2:58:36 AM

In the link that Magnus referenced
http://www.univie.ac.at/ZID/anleitungen-mailing/windowsmail/
I see no mention of TLS. It specifies using port 465 with SSL.
If that doesn't work, then I don't know what else to suggest.

It acts like the "My server requires authentication setting" is not
taking effect. Try deleting the account, restarting WLM, then
recreate the account.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:#OE6yTiJLHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

Yeah, that setting is already checked.

Off-campus access is allowed since everything works with Thunderbird on the
same machine (both ports 587 and 465).

Anyone knows how I can remove my IP-address from a Wireshark log? Then I
could upload the Wireshark logs from Thunderbird and WLM if someone's
interested.
The only thing I can recognize is that protocol TLSv1 is used and the log
from WLM shows some red lines.

If WLM really doesn't support TLS then this might be the problem. But I
checked now Wireshark when receiving mails and there's also TLSv1 used and
receiving mails works.
I really don't know what's wrong. Maybe it has something to do with the red
lines in Wireshark.

Here's one example: Acknowledgement number: Broken TCP. The acknowledge
field is nonzero while the ACK flag is not set


"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
news:OPq6j5hJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Make sure you have send authentication enabled when using port 587.
Go to Tools, Accounts, select that account, Properties, Servers.
Enable the "My server requires authentication" option.

If that setting was already checked, call the University help desk for
advice.
It may be that they don't allow off-campus access.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:eMl#9rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.

Error message:
The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's
e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.

Subject 'Test 587'
Server Error: 530
Server Response: 530 Authentication required
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 587
Secure(SSL): No

"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
(which WLMdoes support), see
http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/

Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

Hello!

I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
I always get an error when trying to send mails:
An unknown error has occurred.

Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 465
Secure(SSL): Yes

Here's my setup:
Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
same settings as my incoming mail server"
Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)

Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png

I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.

Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png

Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?

Thanks

P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo in
the German Win version. 


0
Reply Gary 7/18/2010 3:13:53 PM

Check the settings button next to the My Server Requires Authentication.

Normally there you say to use the Incoming server settings.  This 
assumes that the incoming server is for the same mail service (and is 
working).

You can also specifically put in your account name and password.

-- 

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message 
news:#OE6yTiJLHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, that setting is already checked.
>
> Off-campus access is allowed since everything works with Thunderbird 
> on the same machine (both ports 587 and 465).
>
> Anyone knows how I can remove my IP-address from a Wireshark log? Then 
> I could upload the Wireshark logs from Thunderbird and WLM if 
> someone's interested.
> The only thing I can recognize is that protocol TLSv1 is used and the 
> log from WLM shows some red lines.
>
> If WLM really doesn't support TLS then this might be the problem. But 
> I checked now Wireshark when receiving mails and there's also TLSv1 
> used and receiving mails works.
> I really don't know what's wrong. Maybe it has something to do with 
> the red lines in Wireshark.
>
> Here's one example: Acknowledgement number: Broken TCP. The 
> acknowledge field is nonzero while the ACK flag is not set
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message 
> news:OPq6j5hJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> Make sure you have send authentication enabled when using port 587.
> Go to Tools, Accounts, select that account, Properties, Servers.
> Enable the "My server requires authentication" option.
>
> If that setting was already checked, call the University help desk for 
> advice.
> It may be that they don't allow off-campus access.
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:eMl#9rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
> Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.
>
> Error message:
> The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's
> e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.
>
> Subject 'Test 587'
> Server Error: 530
> Server Response: 530 Authentication required
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 587
> Secure(SSL): No
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
> news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
> There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
> (which WLMdoes support), see
> http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/
>
> Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Hello!
>
> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
> An unknown error has occurred.
>
> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 465
> Secure(SSL): Yes
>
> Here's my setup:
> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and 
> "Use
> same settings as my incoming mail server"
> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>
> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>
> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>
> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work 
> in
> WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>
> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit 
> IMAP?
>
> Thanks
>
> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge 
> typo in
> the German Win version.
> 

0
Reply Michael 7/18/2010 6:03:01 PM

I think I've tried already all settings.
I'm going to try it with the last final WLM version on another machine.
Maybe it's working there. If not then WLM is definitely somehow causing 
this. Maybe it also have something to do with my "exotic" internet 
connection.
Even Win 7 behaved weirdly with my ISP first.

Thanks for your help though!

"Michael Santovec"  wrote in message 
news:O7Zt3NqJLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Check the settings button next to the My Server Requires Authentication.

Normally there you say to use the Incoming server settings.  This
assumes that the incoming server is for the same mail service (and is
working).

You can also specifically put in your account name and password.

-- 

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:#OE6yTiJLHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, that setting is already checked.
>
> Off-campus access is allowed since everything works with Thunderbird on 
> the same machine (both ports 587 and 465).
>
> Anyone knows how I can remove my IP-address from a Wireshark log? Then I 
> could upload the Wireshark logs from Thunderbird and WLM if someone's 
> interested.
> The only thing I can recognize is that protocol TLSv1 is used and the log 
> from WLM shows some red lines.
>
> If WLM really doesn't support TLS then this might be the problem. But I 
> checked now Wireshark when receiving mails and there's also TLSv1 used and 
> receiving mails works.
> I really don't know what's wrong. Maybe it has something to do with the 
> red lines in Wireshark.
>
> Here's one example: Acknowledgement number: Broken TCP. The acknowledge 
> field is nonzero while the ACK flag is not set
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message 
> news:OPq6j5hJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> Make sure you have send authentication enabled when using port 587.
> Go to Tools, Accounts, select that account, Properties, Servers.
> Enable the "My server requires authentication" option.
>
> If that setting was already checked, call the University help desk for 
> advice.
> It may be that they don't allow off-campus access.
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:eMl#9rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
> Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.
>
> Error message:
> The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's
> e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.
>
> Subject 'Test 587'
> Server Error: 530
> Server Response: 530 Authentication required
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 587
> Secure(SSL): No
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
> news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
> There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
> (which WLMdoes support), see
> http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/
>
> Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Hello!
>
> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
> An unknown error has occurred.
>
> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 465
> Secure(SSL): Yes
>
> Here's my setup:
> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
> same settings as my incoming mail server"
> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>
> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>
> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>
> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
> WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>
> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?
>
> Thanks
>
> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo 
> in
> the German Win version.
> 
0
Reply Phil 7/18/2010 7:44:19 PM

Okay, I've setup this IMAP account with exactly the same settings (through 
VNC) on another machine with WLM 14 and it worked.
So I did like Gary suggested an deleted that account in WLM 15 Beta and 
started from scratch and voil�, it mysteriously works now.
I really don't know what was causing this since I've used exactly the same 
settings as before and now it works.

"Phil"  wrote in message news:OmWlfGrJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

I think I've tried already all settings.
I'm going to try it with the last final WLM version on another machine.
Maybe it's working there. If not then WLM is definitely somehow causing
this. Maybe it also have something to do with my "exotic" internet
connection.
Even Win 7 behaved weirdly with my ISP first.

Thanks for your help though!

"Michael Santovec"  wrote in message
news:O7Zt3NqJLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Check the settings button next to the My Server Requires Authentication.

Normally there you say to use the Incoming server settings.  This
assumes that the incoming server is for the same mail service (and is
working).

You can also specifically put in your account name and password.

-- 

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:#OE6yTiJLHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, that setting is already checked.
>
> Off-campus access is allowed since everything works with Thunderbird on 
> the same machine (both ports 587 and 465).
>
> Anyone knows how I can remove my IP-address from a Wireshark log? Then I 
> could upload the Wireshark logs from Thunderbird and WLM if someone's 
> interested.
> The only thing I can recognize is that protocol TLSv1 is used and the log 
> from WLM shows some red lines.
>
> If WLM really doesn't support TLS then this might be the problem. But I 
> checked now Wireshark when receiving mails and there's also TLSv1 used and 
> receiving mails works.
> I really don't know what's wrong. Maybe it has something to do with the 
> red lines in Wireshark.
>
> Here's one example: Acknowledgement number: Broken TCP. The acknowledge 
> field is nonzero while the ACK flag is not set
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message 
> news:OPq6j5hJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> Make sure you have send authentication enabled when using port 587.
> Go to Tools, Accounts, select that account, Properties, Servers.
> Enable the "My server requires authentication" option.
>
> If that setting was already checked, call the University help desk for 
> advice.
> It may be that they don't allow off-campus access.
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:eMl#9rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
> Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.
>
> Error message:
> The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's
> e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.
>
> Subject 'Test 587'
> Server Error: 530
> Server Response: 530 Authentication required
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 587
> Secure(SSL): No
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
> news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
> There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
> (which WLMdoes support), see
> http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/
>
> Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Hello!
>
> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
> An unknown error has occurred.
>
> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 465
> Secure(SSL): Yes
>
> Here's my setup:
> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
> same settings as my incoming mail server"
> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>
> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>
> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>
> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
> WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>
> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?
>
> Thanks
>
> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo 
> in
> the German Win version.
> 

0
Reply Phil 7/18/2010 9:10:57 PM

Thanks for the feedback.
As I said previously, it appeared to me from your error message that WLM
was ignoring the "My server requires authentication" setting, which can
indicate a corrupted mail account.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Phil"  wrote in message news:OKCN52rJLHA.1996@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

Okay, I've setup this IMAP account with exactly the same settings (through
VNC) on another machine with WLM 14 and it worked.
So I did like Gary suggested an deleted that account in WLM 15 Beta and
started from scratch and voil�, it mysteriously works now.
I really don't know what was causing this since I've used exactly the same
settings as before and now it works.

"Phil"  wrote in message news:OmWlfGrJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

I think I've tried already all settings.
I'm going to try it with the last final WLM version on another machine.
Maybe it's working there. If not then WLM is definitely somehow causing
this. Maybe it also have something to do with my "exotic" internet
connection.
Even Win 7 behaved weirdly with my ISP first.

Thanks for your help though!

"Michael Santovec"  wrote in message
news:O7Zt3NqJLHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

Check the settings button next to the My Server Requires Authentication.

Normally there you say to use the Incoming server settings.  This
assumes that the incoming server is for the same mail service (and is
working).

You can also specifically put in your account name and password.

-- 

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us



"Phil" <mail@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:#OE6yTiJLHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yeah, that setting is already checked.
>
> Off-campus access is allowed since everything works with Thunderbird on the same machine (both ports 587 and 465).
>
> Anyone knows how I can remove my IP-address from a Wireshark log? Then I could upload the Wireshark logs from Thunderbird and 
> WLM if someone's interested.
> The only thing I can recognize is that protocol TLSv1 is used and the log from WLM shows some red lines.
>
> If WLM really doesn't support TLS then this might be the problem. But I checked now Wireshark when receiving mails and there's 
> also TLSv1 used and receiving mails works.
> I really don't know what's wrong. Maybe it has something to do with the red lines in Wireshark.
>
> Here's one example: Acknowledgement number: Broken TCP. The acknowledge field is nonzero while the ACK flag is not set
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message news:OPq6j5hJLHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> Make sure you have send authentication enabled when using port 587.
> Go to Tools, Accounts, select that account, Properties, Servers.
> Enable the "My server requires authentication" option.
>
> If that setting was already checked, call the University help desk for advice.
> It may be that they don't allow off-campus access.
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:eMl#9rhJLHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Thanks for the links and your suggestion.
> Port 587 without SSL didn't work either.
>
> Error message:
> The message could not be sent because the server rejected the sender's
> e-mail address. The sender's e-mail address was 'axxxxx@univie.ac.at'.
>
> Subject 'Test 587'
> Server Error: 530
> Server Response: 530 Authentication required
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC78
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 587
> Secure(SSL): No
>
> "Gary VanderMolen (MVP)"  wrote in message
> news:#OluEPfJLHA.680@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> I don't believe that Windows Live Mail supports TLS or STARTLS.
> There seems to be confusion over how those protocols differ from SSL
> (which WLMdoes support), see
> http://sial.org/howto/openssl/tls-name/
>
> Have you tried using port 587 without SSL?
>
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Phil"  wrote in message news:#tzuUmeJLHA.4320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Hello!
>
> I tried to setup an IMAP account but only incoming mail is working.
> I always get an error when trying to send mails:
> An unknown error has occurred.
>
> Subject 'Test message 465 IMAP'
> Server: 'mail.univie.ac.at'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0B
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 465
> Secure(SSL): Yes
>
> Here's my setup:
> Outgoing mail (SMTP): mail.univie.ac.at
> Outgoing Mail Server: "My server requires authentication" checked and "Use
> same settings as my incoming mail server"
> Outgoing mail port: 465 (SSL checked)
>
> Here's the working setting tab from Thunderbird 3:
> http://i.imgur.com/ok9rp.png
>
> I think I have exactly the same settings in WLM but it doesn't work.
>
> Here's another working setting for Thunderbird 3 which also won't work in
> WLM because I don't know where an option for STARTLS is:
> http://i.imgur.com/lFx7T.png
>
> Anyone knows how I can make this account (outgoing mails) work wit IMAP?
>
> Thanks
>
> P.s. Anyone knows where I can report Win7 bugs? I've found a dialoge typo in
> the German Win version.
> 

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Reply Gary 7/18/2010 9:22:10 PM

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