Many people have found Hotmail continually puts legit email in the Spam  
folder.  Is there any way of disabling this non-helping feature?  You can  
set it to low - but of course that is useless.

Or maybe there is a way of forwarding your Spam folder to your Spam folder  
in your POP3 email program?  That would work ok.  Once you use an email  
program you don't want to have to log in to Hotmail to check your  
messages.  That's the whole point of using an email program.  To get away  
 from slow, ponderous, awkward webmail.  To make matters even worse  
Microsoft deletes the spam after 10 days.  Even if you only get a few a  
week.  How utterly stupid is that?  If you get hundreds a week you  
obviously have a spam problem.  But say 5?  Makes no sense.

In the web UI..
Add the sender to your contacts.
Do not safe list a contact

After the above, if the web UI Junk filter is still to low and mail goes to the Junk folder, the content(and/or Links) in the message are the cause.



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....winston
ms-mvp mail

"BigBang"  wrote in message news:op.visbroxjqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... 

Many people have found Hotmail continually puts legit email in the Spam  
folder.  Is there any way of disabling this non-helping feature?  You can  
set it to low - but of course that is useless.

Or maybe there is a way of forwarding your Spam folder to your Spam folder  
in your POP3 email program?  That would work ok.  Once you use an email  
program you don't want to have to log in to Hotmail to check your  
messages.  That's the whole point of using an email program.  To get away  
from slow, ponderous, awkward webmail.  To make matters even worse  
Microsoft deletes the spam after 10 days.  Even if you only get a few a  
week.  How utterly stupid is that?  If you get hundreds a week you  
obviously have a spam problem.  But say 5?  Makes no sense.

> In the web UI..
> Add the sender to your contacts.

Many people have reported that even that doesn't work.  Safe senders still  
end up in Junk.
Anyway I need a solution to turn it off completely.  I have no idea who is  
going to email me so I can't add them to contacts.  I'm using it for  
advertising.

> Do not safe list a contact
>
> After the above, if the web UI Junk filter is still to low and mail goes  
> to the Junk folder, the content(and/or Links) in the message are the  
> cause.

Maybe, just maybe, its the idiots that designed the program!  If something  
doesn't work the first remedy is to turn it off.  Then work on its  
repair.  Not Microsoft.  Imagine if they designed planes!  "Good morning  
everybody. We have engines that haven't been assembled properly but we're  
going to take off irregardless.  Time is money!"

Does anybody know if there is a way of having your POP email program pull  
in the Junk folder of Hotmail?  That wouldn't be so bad because you could  
then see it instantly.

> "BigBang"  wrote in message  
> news:op.visbroxjqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... Many people have  
> found Hotmail continually puts legit email in the Spam  folder.  Is  
> there any way of disabling this non-helping feature?  You can  set it to  
> low - but of course that is useless.
>
> Or maybe there is a way of forwarding your Spam folder to your Spam  
> folder  in your POP3 email program?  That would work ok.  Once you use  
> an email  program you don't want to have to log in to Hotmail to check  
> your  messages.  That's the whole point of using an email program.  To  
> get away  from slow, ponderous, awkward webmail.  To make matters even  
> worse  Microsoft deletes the spam after 10 days.  Even if you only get a  
> few a  week.  How utterly stupid is that?  If you get hundreds a week  
> you  obviously have a spam problem.  But say 5?  Makes no sense.

At this stage..wysiwyg.
If safe senders end up in Junk, as noted, content is the most likely cause.
Only the sender with help from the recipient can address that issue.

--
....winston
ms-mvp mail

"BigBang"  wrote in message news:op.viubtuieqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... 

> In the web UI..
> Add the sender to your contacts.

Many people have reported that even that doesn't work.  Safe senders still  
end up in Junk.
Anyway I need a solution to turn it off completely.  I have no idea who is  
going to email me so I can't add them to contacts.  I'm using it for  
advertising.

> Do not safe list a contact
>
> After the above, if the web UI Junk filter is still to low and mail goes  
> to the Junk folder, the content(and/or Links) in the message are the  
> cause.

Maybe, just maybe, its the idiots that designed the program!  If something  
doesn't work the first remedy is to turn it off.  Then work on its  
repair.  Not Microsoft.  Imagine if they designed planes!  "Good morning  
everybody. We have engines that haven't been assembled properly but we're  
going to take off irregardless.  Time is money!"

Does anybody know if there is a way of having your POP email program pull  
in the Junk folder of Hotmail?  That wouldn't be so bad because you could  
then see it instantly.

> "BigBang"  wrote in message  
> news:op.visbroxjqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... Many people have  
> found Hotmail continually puts legit email in the Spam  folder.  Is  
> there any way of disabling this non-helping feature?  You can  set it to  
> low - but of course that is useless.
>
> Or maybe there is a way of forwarding your Spam folder to your Spam  
> folder  in your POP3 email program?  That would work ok.  Once you use  
> an email  program you don't want to have to log in to Hotmail to check  
> your  messages.  That's the whole point of using an email program.  To  
> get away  from slow, ponderous, awkward webmail.  To make matters even  
> worse  Microsoft deletes the spam after 10 days.  Even if you only get a  
> few a  week.  How utterly stupid is that?  If you get hundreds a week  
> you  obviously have a spam problem.  But say 5?  Makes no sense.

No Winston you pathetic Microsoft lap dog.  The problem is the DESIGNER.   
Why do you insist on protecting someone painfully obviously at fault?

> At this stage..wysiwyg.
> If safe senders end up in Junk, as noted, content is the most likely  
> cause.
> Only the sender with help from the recipient can address that issue.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "BigBang"  wrote in message  
> news:op.viubtuieqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
>> In the web UI..
>> Add the sender to your contacts.
>
> Many people have reported that even that doesn't work.  Safe senders  
> still  end up in Junk.
> Anyway I need a solution to turn it off completely.  I have no idea who  
> is  going to email me so I can't add them to contacts.  I'm using it  
> for  advertising.
>
>> Do not safe list a contact
>>
>> After the above, if the web UI Junk filter is still to low and mail  
>> goes  to the Junk folder, the content(and/or Links) in the message are  
>> the  cause.
>
> Maybe, just maybe, its the idiots that designed the program!  If  
> something  doesn't work the first remedy is to turn it off.  Then work  
> on its  repair.  Not Microsoft.  Imagine if they designed planes!  "Good  
> morning  everybody. We have engines that haven't been assembled properly  
> but we're  going to take off irregardless.  Time is money!"
>
> Does anybody know if there is a way of having your POP email program  
> pull  in the Junk folder of Hotmail?  That wouldn't be so bad because  
> you could  then see it instantly.
>
>> "BigBang"  wrote in message   
>> news:op.visbroxjqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... Many people have   
>> found Hotmail continually puts legit email in the Spam  folder.  Is   
>> there any way of disabling this non-helping feature?  You can  set it  
>> to  low - but of course that is useless.
>>
>> Or maybe there is a way of forwarding your Spam folder to your Spam   
>> folder  in your POP3 email program?  That would work ok.  Once you use   
>> an email  program you don't want to have to log in to Hotmail to check   
>> your  messages.  That's the whole point of using an email program.  To   
>> get away  from slow, ponderous, awkward webmail.  To make matters even   
>> worse  Microsoft deletes the spam after 10 days.  Even if you only get  
>> a  few a  week.  How utterly stupid is that?  If you get hundreds a  
>> week  you  obviously have a spam problem.  But say 5?  Makes no sense.

Flaming someone will likely render undesirable responses.
-- 
   Don�

"BigBang" <BigBang@isnt.here> wrote in message 
news:op.vixgf8jfqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
> No Winston you pathetic Microsoft lap dog.  The problem is the DESIGNER. 
> Why do you insist on protecting someone painfully obviously at fault?
>
>> At this stage..wysiwyg.
>> If safe senders end up in Junk, as noted, content is the most likely 
>> cause.
>> Only the sender with help from the recipient can address that issue.
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "BigBang"  wrote in message 
>> news:op.viubtuieqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
>>> In the web UI..
>>> Add the sender to your contacts.
>>
>> Many people have reported that even that doesn't work.  Safe senders 
>> still  end up in Junk.
>> Anyway I need a solution to turn it off completely.  I have no idea who 
>> is  going to email me so I can't add them to contacts.  I'm using it  for 
>> advertising.
>>
>>> Do not safe list a contact
>>>
>>> After the above, if the web UI Junk filter is still to low and mail 
>>> goes  to the Junk folder, the content(and/or Links) in the message are 
>>> the  cause.
>>
>> Maybe, just maybe, its the idiots that designed the program!  If 
>> something  doesn't work the first remedy is to turn it off.  Then work 
>> on its  repair.  Not Microsoft.  Imagine if they designed planes!  "Good 
>> morning  everybody. We have engines that haven't been assembled properly 
>> but we're  going to take off irregardless.  Time is money!"
>>
>> Does anybody know if there is a way of having your POP email program 
>> pull  in the Junk folder of Hotmail?  That wouldn't be so bad because 
>> you could  then see it instantly.
>>
>>> "BigBang"  wrote in message 
>>> news:op.visbroxjqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... Many people have 
>>> found Hotmail continually puts legit email in the Spam  folder.  Is 
>>> there any way of disabling this non-helping feature?  You can  set it 
>>> to  low - but of course that is useless.
>>>
>>> Or maybe there is a way of forwarding your Spam folder to your Spam 
>>> folder  in your POP3 email program?  That would work ok.  Once you use 
>>> an email  program you don't want to have to log in to Hotmail to check 
>>> your  messages.  That's the whole point of using an email program.  To 
>>> get away  from slow, ponderous, awkward webmail.  To make matters even 
>>> worse  Microsoft deletes the spam after 10 days.  Even if you only get 
>>> a  few a  week.  How utterly stupid is that?  If you get hundreds a 
>>> week  you  obviously have a spam problem.  But say 5?  Makes no sense. 

Send feedback.
If doing so, you might wish to change your approach if expecting anyone to listen.
Until then, you'll have to live with your problem or find an alternative client.

--
....winston
ms-mvp mail

"BigBang"  wrote in message news:op.vixgf8jfqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... 

No Winston you pathetic Microsoft lap dog.  The problem is the DESIGNER.   
Why do you insist on protecting someone painfully obviously at fault?

> At this stage..wysiwyg.
> If safe senders end up in Junk, as noted, content is the most likely  
> cause.
> Only the sender with help from the recipient can address that issue.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "BigBang"  wrote in message  
> news:op.viubtuieqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net...
>> In the web UI..
>> Add the sender to your contacts.
>
> Many people have reported that even that doesn't work.  Safe senders  
> still  end up in Junk.
> Anyway I need a solution to turn it off completely.  I have no idea who  
> is  going to email me so I can't add them to contacts.  I'm using it  
> for  advertising.
>
>> Do not safe list a contact
>>
>> After the above, if the web UI Junk filter is still to low and mail  
>> goes  to the Junk folder, the content(and/or Links) in the message are  
>> the  cause.
>
> Maybe, just maybe, its the idiots that designed the program!  If  
> something  doesn't work the first remedy is to turn it off.  Then work  
> on its  repair.  Not Microsoft.  Imagine if they designed planes!  "Good  
> morning  everybody. We have engines that haven't been assembled properly  
> but we're  going to take off irregardless.  Time is money!"
>
> Does anybody know if there is a way of having your POP email program  
> pull  in the Junk folder of Hotmail?  That wouldn't be so bad because  
> you could  then see it instantly.
>
>> "BigBang"  wrote in message   
>> news:op.visbroxjqq4679@----------.wp.shawcable.net... Many people have   
>> found Hotmail continually puts legit email in the Spam  folder.  Is   
>> there any way of disabling this non-helping feature?  You can  set it  
>> to  low - but of course that is useless.
>>
>> Or maybe there is a way of forwarding your Spam folder to your Spam   
>> folder  in your POP3 email program?  That would work ok.  Once you use   
>> an email  program you don't want to have to log in to Hotmail to check   
>> your  messages.  That's the whole point of using an email program.  To   
>> get away  from slow, ponderous, awkward webmail.  To make matters even   
>> worse  Microsoft deletes the spam after 10 days.  Even if you only get  
>> a  few a  week.  How utterly stupid is that?  If you get hundreds a  
>> week  you  obviously have a spam problem.  But say 5?  Makes no sense.

"Don Dewiel" <dondewiel@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:i6j1qe$fnp$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>> you pathetic Microsoft lap dog.

.... and the opposite of a pathetic lap dog is?

>>> Maybe, just maybe, its the idiots that designed the program!

I always wondered why my Camry doesn't perform like a Porsche.... Hmmmm... 
Must be those idiots that designed that vehicle.

>>> Does anybody know if there is a way of having your POP email program 
>>> pull  in the Junk folder of Hotmail?

Yes, or any Hotmail folder for that matter. Google is your friend.