HELLO!

http://www1.minpic.de/bild_anzeigen.php ... 31142&ende
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type

Problem in Windows Live Mail. - Here is Thunderbird better.

   Picture in Clipboard, insert into the mail, the mail is very big, that is 
bad.
          Reason maybe it is a bitmap, better jpg format.
  Have I any possiblities in the settings?




Greeting Markus

 

The problem is the size and that is an issue with your server, not which 
e-mail client you use. Compared to GIFs and JPGs, BMPs are huge. If you 
can save whatever it is as a GIF, it should go with no problem.
-- 
           Bruce Hagen
         MS-MVP  [Mail]
      Imperial Beach, CA


"Markus Mayer" <mm@SchadeMSNewsgroupAde.de> wrote in message 
news:ehXBx2wCLHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> HELLO!
>
> http://www1.minpic.de/bild_anzeigen.php ... 31142&ende
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type
>
> Problem in Windows Live Mail. - Here is Thunderbird better.
>
>   Picture in Clipboard, insert into the mail, the mail is very big, that 
> is bad.
>          Reason maybe it is a bitmap, better jpg format.
>  Have I any possiblities in the settings?
>
>
>
>
> Greeting Markus
>
>
> 

Hello,

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:hv2ubo$4os$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> The problem is the size and that is an issue with your server, not which 
> e-mail client you use. Compared to GIFs and JPGs, BMPs are huge. If you 
> can save whatever it is as a GIF, it should go with no problem.
> -- 
>           Bruce Hagen
ok, I open the jpg picture with IrfanView.
I make a rectangle with left mouse key.
Use Ctrl + X  -> Clipboard

Insert Ctrl +V in my eMail.

The size is very big.

I think it is a Client problem.
I can't say, use jpg, GIF or whatever.

How can I say, use GIF?
Where can I make the adjustment?

Thunderbird 2.14    Size   300kB
Windows Live Mail  Size 1200kB

Greeting Markus 

"Markus Mayer" <mm@SchadeMSNewsgroupAde.de> wrote in message 
news:uLzST2xCLHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
> news:hv2ubo$4os$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> The problem is the size and that is an issue with your server, not 
>> which e-mail client you use. Compared to GIFs and JPGs, BMPs are huge. 
>> If you can save whatever it is as a GIF, it should go with no problem.
>> -- 
>>           Bruce Hagen
> ok, I open the jpg picture with IrfanView.
> I make a rectangle with left mouse key.
> Use Ctrl + X  -> Clipboard
>
> Insert Ctrl +V in my eMail.
>
> The size is very big.
>
> I think it is a Client problem.
> I can't say, use jpg, GIF or whatever.
>
> How can I say, use GIF?
> Where can I make the adjustment?
>
> Thunderbird 2.14    Size   300kB
> Windows Live Mail  Size 1200kB
>
> Greeting Markus


I don't use IrfanView so I couldn't say, but a jpg should be OK. What I 
don't understand is this. Let's say you have this graphic in My Pictures, 
or any other folder on your HDD. When you insert it in WLMail, it should 
be the same size as it is in Thunderbird.

If you are talking about the physical size, I use this freeware tool for 
resizing. It is real quick & easy.

Pix Resizer
http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm
-- 
           Bruce Hagen
         MS-MVP  [Mail]
      Imperial Beach, CA

Hello Bruce,

>>
>> Thunderbird 2.14    Size   300kB
>> Windows Live Mail  Size 1200kB
>>

>
>
> I don't use IrfanView so I couldn't say, but a jpg should be OK. What I 
> don't understand is this. Let's say you have this graphic in My Pictures, 
> or any other folder on your HDD. When you insert it in WLMail, it should 
> be the same size as it is in Thunderbird.
No!

This is only happen, if you insert the picture from Clipboard!!!
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type

In Thunderbird, you can change the settings. Maybe also in WLM, or?   Please 
see my link or try it.
   Pleasse insert not the picture as file, only via Clipboard makes the 
eMail very big.


>
> If you are talking about the physical size, I use this freeware tool for 
> resizing. It is real quick & easy.
>
> Pix Resizer
> http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm
Thanks. I doesn't know this tool.
http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm

Greeting Markus 

"Markus Mayer" <mm@SchadeMSNewsgroupAde.de> wrote in message 
news:eEFuNuyCLHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello Bruce,
>
>>>
>>> Thunderbird 2.14    Size   300kB
>>> Windows Live Mail  Size 1200kB
>>>
>
>>
>>
>> I don't use IrfanView so I couldn't say, but a jpg should be OK. What I 
>> don't understand is this. Let's say you have this graphic in My 
>> Pictures, or any other folder on your HDD. When you insert it in 
>> WLMail, it should be the same size as it is in Thunderbird.
> No!
>
> This is only happen, if you insert the picture from Clipboard!!!
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type
>
> In Thunderbird, you can change the settings. Maybe also in WLM, or? 
> Please see my link or try it.
>   Pleasse insert not the picture as file, only via Clipboard makes the 
> eMail very big.
>
>
>>
>> If you are talking about the physical size, I use this freeware tool 
>> for resizing. It is real quick & easy.
>>
>> Pix Resizer
>> http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm
> Thanks. I doesn't know this tool.
> http://bluefive.pair.com/pixresizer.htm
>
> Greeting Markus


Now I see why the difference, but WLMail has no such option.
-- 
           Bruce Hagen
         MS-MVP  [Mail]
      Imperial Beach, CA

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:32:48 +0200, "Markus Mayer"
<mm@SchadeMSNewsgroupAde.de> wrote:

>
>HELLO!
>
>http://www1.minpic.de/bild_anzeigen.php ... 31142&ende
>http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type
>
>Problem in Windows Live Mail. - Here is Thunderbird better.
>
>   Picture in Clipboard, insert into the mail, the mail is very big, that is 
>bad.
>          Reason maybe it is a bitmap, better jpg format.
>  Have I any possiblities in the settings?

Cut out the middleman. Simply "Attach" the image in WLM.

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:hv3asa$d3g$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> Now I see why the difference, but WLMail has no such option.

By my understanding, any picture captured to the clipboard in the way Marcus 
describes is stored as a bitmap on the clipboard.  The clipboard cannot 
itself convert it to a JPEG.

It seems like WLM can't either, which frankly is what I would expect.  If 
Marcus is giving us the whole story, it appears that Thunderbird will 
somehow automatically convert a bitmap into a JPEG (or similar).  I'm 
surprised and impressed that it will do that.

So, Marcus: you can't make WLM compress a bitmap automatically, so you will 
have to find a different way of working.  As Evan says, save the required 
picture as a file and attach it.

SteveT 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:18 +0100, "Steve Thackery"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>So, Marcus: you can't make WLM compress a bitmap automatically, so you will 
>have to find a different way of working.  As Evan says, save the required 
>picture as a file and attach it.

The picture is already saved as a file. The OP opens it in IRFANVIEW,
and copies it to the clipboard.
-- 
To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious and .invalid from my e-mail address.

"Evan Platt" <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> kirjoitti 
viestiss�:aufc165g6ei8g12cdff33svp0ug3p0ivfi@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:45:18 +0100, "Steve Thackery"
> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>So, Marcus: you can't make WLM compress a bitmap automatically, so you 
>>will
>>have to find a different way of working.  As Evan says, save the required
>>picture as a file and attach it.
>
> The picture is already saved as a file. The OP opens it in IRFANVIEW,
> and copies it to the clipboard.

That most likely is the problem. As he's copying it to the clipboard, it get 
stored there as a bitmap


-- 
Thomas Wendell
Helsinki, Finland
Translations to/from FI not always accurate

"Evan Platt" <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote in message 
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> The picture is already saved as a file. The OP opens it in IRFANVIEW,
> and copies it to the clipboard.

Pointless, I agree.  But he actually wrote:

>> ok, I open the jpg picture with IrfanView.
>> I make a rectangle with left mouse key.
>> Use Ctrl + X  -> Clipboard

.........which suggests he wants to send just a small part of the picture - a 
selected rectangle.  In which case he's out of luck, because it's going to 
be on the clipboard as a bitmap.

SteveT 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:30:24 +0100, "Steve Thackery"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Evan Platt" <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote in message 
>news:aufc165g6ei8g12cdff33svp0ug3p0ivfi@4ax.com...
>
>> The picture is already saved as a file. The OP opens it in IRFANVIEW,
>> and copies it to the clipboard.
>
>Pointless, I agree.  But he actually wrote:
>
>>> ok, I open the jpg picture with IrfanView.
>>> I make a rectangle with left mouse key.
>>> Use Ctrl + X  -> Clipboard
>
>........which suggests he wants to send just a small part of the picture - a 
>selected rectangle.  In which case he's out of luck, because it's going to 
>be on the clipboard as a bitmap.

Ah... Missed that part.

So I guess (I haven't used irfanview in a while) he could control-c to
copy selected portion, and certainly irfanview has a 'paste to new'
type feature, to paste the selection to a new file. Save that portion
to a file, attach that file.
-- 
To reply via e-mail, remove The Obvious and .invalid from my e-mail address.

Hello Steve,
> So, Marcus: you can't make WLM compress a bitmap automatically, so you 
> will have to find a different way of working.  As Evan says, save the 
> required picture as a file and attach it.

of course.
[URL=http://s10.directupload.net/file/d/2195/r4iwjw88_png.htm][IMG]http://s10.directupload.net/images/100619/temp/r4iwjw88.png[/IMG][/URL]
http://s10.directupload.net/file/d/2195/r4iwjw88_png.htm

but that needs more time.
I would be delighted if someone had a tip/hint.

It is not depend from IrfanView, each tool have the same behavior.

I think it is advantage for Thunderbid 3.X

>>In which case he's out of luck, because it's going to be on the clipboard 
>>as a bitmap.
Thunderbid 3.X can convert it automatically.
OK now I should decide which tool is better.

Greeting Markus

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Prefer JPEG over PNG over GIF:

1.If JPEG is available, paste in JPEG format;
2.if JPEG is not available but PNG, paste in PNG;
3.if neither JPEG nor PNG are available, but GIF, paste in GIF.
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Prefer PNG over JPEG over GIF (this is the default):

1.If PNG is available, paste in PNG format;
2.if PNG is not available but JPEG, paste in JPEG;
3.if neither PNG nor JPEG are available, but GIF, paste in GIF.
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Prefer GIF over JPEG over PNG:

1.If GIF is available, paste in GIF format;
2.if GIF is not available but JPEG, paste in JPEG;
3.if neither GIF nor JPEG are available, but PNG, paste in PNG.