Indent/Outdent Circular Reference Error

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My indent/outdent function is not working for new or existing tasks.  When I 
select indent / outdent I receive the following error:

"This outline change would create a circular relationship.

Indenting these taks would create an illogical relationship with other tasks.

Check the task dependencies for the tasks from which you are indenting, and 
then try again."

I am confused because this error will even impact new tasks which are not 
linked.  Linking (predecessors/successors) does not seem to be a factor.  

I am not linking to summary tasks in the .mpp.

Thanks,
Tim
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Reply Utf 3/10/2010 7:04:01 PM

Hmmm....do you have any links to the tasks being indented or outdented?  
Are you using the Paste Special trick to push data from one task to another? 
 Do you have some task way down at the bottom of the schedule which is somehow 
out of view but perhaps causing issues?


- Andrew Lavinsky
Blog: http://blogs.catapultsystems.com/epm

> My indent/outdent function is not working for new or existing tasks.
> When I select indent / outdent I receive the following error:
> 
> "This outline change would create a circular relationship.
> 
> Indenting these taks would create an illogical relationship with other
> tasks.
> 
> Check the task dependencies for the tasks from which you are
> indenting, and then try again."
> 
> I am confused because this error will even impact new tasks which are
> not linked.  Linking (predecessors/successors) does not seem to be a
> factor.
> 
> I am not linking to summary tasks in the .mpp.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim


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Reply Andrew 3/10/2010 8:18:50 PM


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Hi Tim,

Welcome to this Microsoft Project newsgroup :)

Indenting a task will change the one above into a summary.  If there are =
logic links already in position, then you will end up creating the =
potential for circular relationships.  If you need to change your =
structure by creating a new summary, re-link first without the summary - =
or better still,  insert a new task and indent to make that the summary.

FAQs, companion products and other useful Project information can be =
seen at this web address: http://project.mvps.org/faqs.htm

Hope this helps - please let us know how you get on :)

Mike Glen
MS Project MVP
See http://tinyurl.com/2xbhc for my free Project Tutorials


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Reply Mike 3/10/2010 8:30:37 PM

I was surprised to find out that inadvertent links to summary tasks were 
causing that error.  I had never experienced it before (normally I don't  
link to summary tasks).  

Thanks for the assistance.

"Andrew Lavinsky" wrote:

> Hmmm....do you have any links to the tasks being indented or outdented?  
> Are you using the Paste Special trick to push data from one task to another? 
>  Do you have some task way down at the bottom of the schedule which is somehow 
> out of view but perhaps causing issues?
> 
> 
> - Andrew Lavinsky
> Blog: http://blogs.catapultsystems.com/epm
> 
> > My indent/outdent function is not working for new or existing tasks.
> > When I select indent / outdent I receive the following error:
> > 
> > "This outline change would create a circular relationship.
> > 
> > Indenting these taks would create an illogical relationship with other
> > tasks.
> > 
> > Check the task dependencies for the tasks from which you are
> > indenting, and then try again."
> > 
> > I am confused because this error will even impact new tasks which are
> > not linked.  Linking (predecessors/successors) does not seem to be a
> > factor.
> > 
> > I am not linking to summary tasks in the .mpp.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> 
> 
> .
> 
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Reply Utf 3/10/2010 10:14:01 PM

Links to/from summaries are the most common cause of circular errors, and 
easy to avoid, find and fix.
-- 
Trevor Rabey
0407213955
61 8 92727485
PERFECT PROJECT PLANNING
www.perfectproject.com.au

"louckst" <louckst@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:875CB9EA-AC9F-4149-9177-A65861A077BD@microsoft.com...
>
> I was surprised to find out that inadvertent links to summary tasks were
> causing that error.  I had never experienced it before (normally I don't
> link to summary tasks).
>
> Thanks for the assistance.
>
> "Andrew Lavinsky" wrote:
>
>> Hmmm....do you have any links to the tasks being indented or outdented?
>> Are you using the Paste Special trick to push data from one task to 
>> another?
>>  Do you have some task way down at the bottom of the schedule which is 
>> somehow
>> out of view but perhaps causing issues?
>>
>>
>> - Andrew Lavinsky
>> Blog: http://blogs.catapultsystems.com/epm
>>
>> > My indent/outdent function is not working for new or existing tasks.
>> > When I select indent / outdent I receive the following error:
>> >
>> > "This outline change would create a circular relationship.
>> >
>> > Indenting these taks would create an illogical relationship with other
>> > tasks.
>> >
>> > Check the task dependencies for the tasks from which you are
>> > indenting, and then try again."
>> >
>> > I am confused because this error will even impact new tasks which are
>> > not linked.  Linking (predecessors/successors) does not seem to be a
>> > factor.
>> >
>> > I am not linking to summary tasks in the .mpp.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tim
>>
>>
>> .
>> 


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Reply Trevor 3/12/2010 10:59:14 AM

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