When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3 days 
it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants it  shows 
5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix that. Now I got 
a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates and obviously it 
doesn't work.
Please, help!

Silene
 

Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? 
Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next day? 
Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.

You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which means 
that three days will be one day later than a task that you think starts 
at the start of the working day.


--rms

www.rmschneider.com




On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3
> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants
> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates
> and obviously it doesn't work.
> Please, help!
>
> Silene
>
>

9th may is a Sunday, so if your calendar has that as non working, the task 
can't start until the 10th and the finish date moves out until the required 
number of working days has been done.

-- 

Rod Gill
Microsoft MVP for Project - http://www.project-systems.co.nz

Author of the only book on Project VBA, see: http://www.projectvbabook.com




"Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in message 
news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? Could 
> be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next day? Display 
> the times in the date/time columns with Menu: Tools/Options/View, Date 
> format, and pick something with Time.
>
> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which means 
> that three days will be one day later than a task that you think starts at 
> the start of the working day.
>
>
> --rms
>
> www.rmschneider.com
>
>
>
>
> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3
>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants
>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates
>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>> Please, help!
>>
>> Silene
>>
>>
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You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it shows 1 
day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work (duration), the next 
day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 but my 
resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this a problem?

Thanks for the help,

Silene

"Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in message 
news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? Could 
> be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next day? Display 
> the times in the date/time columns with Menu: Tools/Options/View, Date 
> format, and pick something with Time.
>
> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which means 
> that three days will be one day later than a task that you think starts at 
> the start of the working day.
>
>
> --rms
>
> www.rmschneider.com
>
>
>
>
> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3
>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants
>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates
>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>> Please, help!
>>
>> Silene
>>
>> 

The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT set 
the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in Project are 
actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a start date, such as 
when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start No Earlier 
constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must assume a time to apply. 
These fields designate the time Project assumes.  Durations are always 
stored and computed in minuites.  When you enter a duration such as "3 days" 
Project must convert your entry to minutes - the Hours per Day, Hours per 
Week, and Days per Month fields on that page set the conversion factors it 
uses.   You set your working day times in the calendar on 
Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu.  The Calendar Options page fields 
should be consistent with the calendar you designate as the Project Calendar 
but making settings on the Options page does not setup the calendar.
-- 
Steve House
MS Project Trainer & Consultant



"Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it shows 1 
> day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work (duration), the next 
> day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 but 
> my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this a 
> problem?
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Silene
>
> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in message 
> news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? 
>> Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next day? 
>> Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: Tools/Options/View, 
>> Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>
>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which means 
>> that three days will be one day later than a task that you think starts 
>> at the start of the working day.
>>
>>
>> --rms
>>
>> www.rmschneider.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3
>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants
>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates
>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>> Please, help!
>>>
>>> Silene
>>>
>>> 

I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 till 
17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set manually 
the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!

Txs again
Silene

"Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT set 
> the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in Project are 
> actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a start date, such as 
> when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start No Earlier 
> constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must assume a time to 
> apply. These fields designate the time Project assumes.  Durations are 
> always stored and computed in minuites.  When you enter a duration such as 
> "3 days" Project must convert your entry to minutes - the Hours per Day, 
> Hours per Week, and Days per Month fields on that page set the conversion 
> factors it uses.   You set your working day times in the calendar on 
> Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu.  The Calendar Options page fields 
> should be consistent with the calendar you designate as the Project 
> Calendar but making settings on the Options page does not setup the 
> calendar.
> -- 
> Steve House
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>
>
>
> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it shows 
>> 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work (duration), the 
>> next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 but 
>> my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this a 
>> problem?
>>
>> Thanks for the help,
>>
>> Silene
>>
>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in 
>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? 
>>> Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next day? 
>>> Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>
>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which means 
>>> that three days will be one day later than a task that you think starts 
>>> at the start of the working day.
>>>
>>>
>>> --rms
>>>
>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3
>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants
>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates
>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>> Please, help!
>>>>
>>>> Silene
>>>>
>>>>
> 

Silene,

I guess it depends on how they are "broken". If you have input the 
start/end dates directly then that by definition puts that date/time 
information as input and puts a constraint on the task.  If you let 
Project compute the schedule (by using logical predecessors/successors 
and task durations/work) then you just have to adjust the plan to get 
the dates you are looking for.


--rms

www.rmschneider.com




On 11/05/10 12:24, Silene wrote:
> I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 till
> 17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set
> manually the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>
> Txs again
> Silene
>
> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT
>> set the start and end of the working day. All date fields in Project
>> are actually date/time fields. When you manually type a start date,
>> such as when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start
>> No Earlier constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must assume
>> a time to apply. These fields designate the time Project assumes.
>> Durations are always stored and computed in minuites. When you enter a
>> duration such as "3 days" Project must convert your entry to minutes -
>> the Hours per Day, Hours per Week, and Days per Month fields on that
>> page set the conversion factors it uses. You set your working day
>> times in the calendar on Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu. The
>> Calendar Options page fields should be consistent with the calendar
>> you designate as the Project Calendar but making settings on the
>> Options page does not setup the calendar.
>> --
>> Steve House
>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>
>>
>>
>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it
>>> shows 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work
>>> (duration), the next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00
>>> but my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this
>>> a problem?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>
>>> Silene
>>>
>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in
>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time?
>>>> Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next
>>>> day? Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu:
>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>
>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which
>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you
>>>> think starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --rms
>>>>
>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3
>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants
>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates
>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>
>>>>> Silene
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>

No, you can't "cancel the time" - it is always a part of the date field even 
if you choose not to display it.  And you should NOT ever be manually 
entering dates and/or times unless you expressly need to set a constraint. 
Why is it a problem for you?  If you have a task that requires 10 hours of 
work and starts at 1 in the afternoon, with the resource going home at 5pm, 
doesn't it follow logically that is should continue over into the next day? 
If the task is able to start at 1, shouldn't it go ahead and do so?  Why 
have your resource sitting aound for the afternoon twiddling his thumbs - go 
ahead, have him get as much work done on the task as he can before he goes 
home on first day and then finish it up when he comes back on the next 
workday.  It's a rare task that actually has to be worked starting at the 
precise start of the day and takes an exact integer multiple of the workday 
to complete.
-- 
Steve House
MS Project Trainer & Consultant



"Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:769F4C69-D441-47E6-9970-AA3272D5887F@microsoft.com...
>I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 till 
>17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set manually 
>the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>
> Txs again
> Silene
>
> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT set 
>> the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in Project are 
>> actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a start date, such as 
>> when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start No Earlier 
>> constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must assume a time to 
>> apply. These fields designate the time Project assumes.  Durations are 
>> always stored and computed in minuites.  When you enter a duration such 
>> as "3 days" Project must convert your entry to minutes - the Hours per 
>> Day, Hours per Week, and Days per Month fields on that page set the 
>> conversion factors it uses.   You set your working day times in the 
>> calendar on Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu.  The Calendar Options 
>> page fields should be consistent with the calendar you designate as the 
>> Project Calendar but making settings on the Options page does not setup 
>> the calendar.
>> -- 
>> Steve House
>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>
>>
>>
>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it shows 
>>> 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work (duration), the 
>>> next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 but 
>>> my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this a 
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>
>>> Silene
>>>
>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in 
>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? 
>>>> Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next day? 
>>>> Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>
>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which 
>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you think 
>>>> starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --rms
>>>>
>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 3
>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my Gants
>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same dates
>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>
>>>>> Silene
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> 

Txs Rob and Steve.
I still couldn't fix my calendar to show 1 day duration as 1 day work (from 
8 till 17:00). At the moment it shows 24 hours but both my calendars finish 
the day at 17:00! Also the start day shows 7:30, sometimes 8:00, sometimes 
9:00 !! even though they are not linked to any other task, only have a 
constraint which day to start.

Please, help I am completely LOST.

Txs

"Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
news:Ov3AHsV8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No, you can't "cancel the time" - it is always a part of the date field 
> even if you choose not to display it.  And you should NOT ever be manually 
> entering dates and/or times unless you expressly need to set a constraint. 
> Why is it a problem for you?  If you have a task that requires 10 hours of 
> work and starts at 1 in the afternoon, with the resource going home at 
> 5pm, doesn't it follow logically that is should continue over into the 
> next day? If the task is able to start at 1, shouldn't it go ahead and do 
> so?  Why have your resource sitting aound for the afternoon twiddling his 
> thumbs - go ahead, have him get as much work done on the task as he can 
> before he goes home on first day and then finish it up when he comes back 
> on the next workday.  It's a rare task that actually has to be worked 
> starting at the precise start of the day and takes an exact integer 
> multiple of the workday to complete.
> -- 
> Steve House
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>
>
>
> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:769F4C69-D441-47E6-9970-AA3272D5887F@microsoft.com...
>>I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 till 
>>17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set manually 
>>the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>>
>> Txs again
>> Silene
>>
>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT 
>>> set the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in Project 
>>> are actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a start date, 
>>> such as when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start No 
>>> Earlier constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must assume a 
>>> time to apply. These fields designate the time Project assumes. 
>>> Durations are always stored and computed in minuites.  When you enter a 
>>> duration such as "3 days" Project must convert your entry to minutes - 
>>> the Hours per Day, Hours per Week, and Days per Month fields on that 
>>> page set the conversion factors it uses.   You set your working day 
>>> times in the calendar on Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu.  The 
>>> Calendar Options page fields should be consistent with the calendar you 
>>> designate as the Project Calendar but making settings on the Options 
>>> page does not setup the calendar.
>>> -- 
>>> Steve House
>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it 
>>>> shows 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work 
>>>> (duration), the next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
>>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 
>>>> but my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this a 
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>>
>>>> Silene
>>>>
>>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in 
>>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? 
>>>>> Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next day? 
>>>>> Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
>>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which 
>>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you think 
>>>>> starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --rms
>>>>>
>>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 
>>>>>> 3
>>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my 
>>>>>> Gants
>>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to fix
>>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same 
>>>>>> dates
>>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
> 

The calendar is not controlling the task duration.  The "duration" field 
in the task defines that.  Enlarge display of dates to also include time 
so that you can see what's happening.


--rms

www.rmschneider.com




On 12/05/10 09:39, Silene wrote:
> Txs Rob and Steve.
> I still couldn't fix my calendar to show 1 day duration as 1 day work
> (from 8 till 17:00). At the moment it shows 24 hours but both my
> calendars finish the day at 17:00! Also the start day shows 7:30,
> sometimes 8:00, sometimes 9:00 !! even though they are not linked to any
> other task, only have a constraint which day to start.
>
> Please, help I am completely LOST.
>
> Txs
>
> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
> news:Ov3AHsV8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> No, you can't "cancel the time" - it is always a part of the date
>> field even if you choose not to display it. And you should NOT ever be
>> manually entering dates and/or times unless you expressly need to set
>> a constraint. Why is it a problem for you? If you have a task that
>> requires 10 hours of work and starts at 1 in the afternoon, with the
>> resource going home at 5pm, doesn't it follow logically that is should
>> continue over into the next day? If the task is able to start at 1,
>> shouldn't it go ahead and do so? Why have your resource sitting aound
>> for the afternoon twiddling his thumbs - go ahead, have him get as
>> much work done on the task as he can before he goes home on first day
>> and then finish it up when he comes back on the next workday. It's a
>> rare task that actually has to be worked starting at the precise start
>> of the day and takes an exact integer multiple of the workday to
>> complete.
>> --
>> Steve House
>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>
>>
>>
>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:769F4C69-D441-47E6-9970-AA3272D5887F@microsoft.com...
>>> I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30
>>> till 17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to
>>> set manually the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>>>
>>> Txs again
>>> Silene
>>>
>>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
>>> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO
>>>> NOT set the start and end of the working day. All date fields in
>>>> Project are actually date/time fields. When you manually type a
>>>> start date, such as when entering the Project Start date or when
>>>> entering a Start No Earlier constraint, and do not supply the time,
>>>> Project must assume a time to apply. These fields designate the time
>>>> Project assumes. Durations are always stored and computed in
>>>> minuites. When you enter a duration such as "3 days" Project must
>>>> convert your entry to minutes - the Hours per Day, Hours per Week,
>>>> and Days per Month fields on that page set the conversion factors it
>>>> uses. You set your working day times in the calendar on
>>>> Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu. The Calendar Options page
>>>> fields should be consistent with the calendar you designate as the
>>>> Project Calendar but making settings on the Options page does not
>>>> setup the calendar.
>>>> --
>>>> Steve House
>>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it
>>>>> shows 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work
>>>>> (duration), the next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
>>>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till
>>>>> 17:00 but my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00.
>>>>> Is this a problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Silene
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in
>>>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working
>>>>>> time? Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the
>>>>>> next day? Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu:
>>>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which
>>>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you
>>>>>> think starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --rms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day,
>>>>>>> e.g. 3
>>>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my
>>>>>>> Gants
>>>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to
>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same
>>>>>>> dates
>>>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

DO NOT set a constraint as to the day they are to start unless you actually 
HAVE to have the constraint.  The only time I like to see constraints is in 
cases of, say, a part is backordered from a supplier and won't arrive until 
a certain date, meaning the task that uses it can't start until that date 
even though everything else in the project might be ready for it to go 
earlier than that.

When you set a constraint by manually typing the date and do not explicitly 
type the time, Project will use the Default Start field on the Calendar 
Option page to supply it.  If you use the little picklist calendar in the 
Gantt chart Start field to pick the constraint date, Project uses the start 
of the workday as defined in the working time calendar (Tools, 
ChangeWorkingTime) to determine the time element.

You should not be telling Project the dates you think tasks should start or 
dates you want them to start.  Projects job is to tell you the dates you 
ought to schedule in order to have the shortest duration project.  You don't 
tell it the dates you want - it tells you the dates you can get.

Your project working time calendar should reflect the normal working hours 
of a typical resource in your project.  If your team works 730am to 5 pm 
then that's what your hours of work in "Tools/ChangeWorkingTime" should 
reflect.  But don't forget to back out lunch - no work takes place during 
lunchtime - If they get 30 minutes for lunch then 0730-1700 is a 9 hour 
workday, not 9.5 hours.  Failure to enter it as 0730-1200 and 1230-1700 or 
whatever the actual times are would mean your man-hour calculations are 
going to be off 30 minutes per resource per day, a signifigant error on any 
but the most trivial projects.  Once you have your working time set for the 
Project calendar, go to the Tools/Options/Calendar settings and bring 
Default Start and Default End plus the Hours per Day and Hours per Week 
settings into conformity with it.  Then go to Project Start Date and verify 
that it shows the start time of the workday as the start time of the 
project.  Then and only then should you begin entering tasks.  DO NOT try to 
enter start dates for individual tasks - your initial task list will show 
all the tasks starting on the project start date and that's perfectly fine - 
if you didn't have some tasks physically dependent on others (gotta put up 
the walls before adding the roof) and if you had an infinite number of 
resources you really would do all the tasks at once and get it done.  The 
only things that causes tasks to be in sequence instead of running in 
parallel is a) some tasks require the deliverables from prior tasks to be 
completed before they can start, and b) some tasks will have to wait until 
the resources that can do them are free.  After you put in the dependency 
links and assign/level resources, Project will give you a schedule showing 
you the dates when you ought to plan to do the tasks in question. Before you 
get those pieces of the puzzle in place don't even think about the dates 
where tasks will be scheduled - such date considerations are premature.  As 
I said before, you don't tell Project the schedule, it tells you.
-- 
Steve House
MS Project Trainer & Consultant



"Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1F6CAFC5-D1D3-4F64-8605-57DA43915454@microsoft.com...
> Txs Rob and Steve.
> I still couldn't fix my calendar to show 1 day duration as 1 day work 
> (from 8 till 17:00). At the moment it shows 24 hours but both my calendars 
> finish the day at 17:00! Also the start day shows 7:30, sometimes 8:00, 
> sometimes 9:00 !! even though they are not linked to any other task, only 
> have a constraint which day to start.
>
> Please, help I am completely LOST.
>
> Txs
>
> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
> news:Ov3AHsV8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> No, you can't "cancel the time" - it is always a part of the date field 
>> even if you choose not to display it.  And you should NOT ever be 
>> manually entering dates and/or times unless you expressly need to set a 
>> constraint. Why is it a problem for you?  If you have a task that 
>> requires 10 hours of work and starts at 1 in the afternoon, with the 
>> resource going home at 5pm, doesn't it follow logically that is should 
>> continue over into the next day? If the task is able to start at 1, 
>> shouldn't it go ahead and do so?  Why have your resource sitting aound 
>> for the afternoon twiddling his thumbs - go ahead, have him get as much 
>> work done on the task as he can before he goes home on first day and then 
>> finish it up when he comes back on the next workday.  It's a rare task 
>> that actually has to be worked starting at the precise start of the day 
>> and takes an exact integer multiple of the workday to complete.
>> -- 
>> Steve House
>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>
>>
>>
>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:769F4C69-D441-47E6-9970-AA3272D5887F@microsoft.com...
>>>I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 till 
>>>17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set 
>>>manually the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>>>
>>> Txs again
>>> Silene
>>>
>>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>>> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT 
>>>> set the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in Project 
>>>> are actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a start date, 
>>>> such as when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start 
>>>> No Earlier constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must assume 
>>>> a time to apply. These fields designate the time Project assumes. 
>>>> Durations are always stored and computed in minuites.  When you enter a 
>>>> duration such as "3 days" Project must convert your entry to minutes - 
>>>> the Hours per Day, Hours per Week, and Days per Month fields on that 
>>>> page set the conversion factors it uses.   You set your working day 
>>>> times in the calendar on Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu.  The 
>>>> Calendar Options page fields should be consistent with the calendar you 
>>>> designate as the Project Calendar but making settings on the Options 
>>>> page does not setup the calendar.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Steve House
>>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it 
>>>>> shows 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work 
>>>>> (duration), the next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these problems?
>>>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 
>>>>> but my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this a 
>>>>> problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Silene
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in 
>>>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? 
>>>>>> Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next 
>>>>>> day? Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
>>>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which 
>>>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you 
>>>>>> think starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --rms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, e.g. 
>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my 
>>>>>>> Gants
>>>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to 
>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same 
>>>>>>> dates
>>>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> 

I am glad to have all your information, it tells me I am trying to do just 
so. But I do have a lot of constraint because I have a few projects that use 
the same resource and the priority keeps changing, so e.g.: a task that was 
suppose to be done last week in 1 day by 1 resource will be done maybe only 
the week after, if I keep increasing the duration I have to decrease the % 
of work the resource is going to do, right? and I don't like to do this 
mathematics.
About the working hours, I've done it all. Now, I can see on my master 
project that the day starts at 7:30 and finishes at 5 but on the project 
start date still shows 8:00!??
The minus on MS project is that all the changes in the calendars shows only 
from the day was mofidied and doesn't update the projects that is already 
running!!

Anyway, many thanks for all the answers, you've been a great help!

Silene

"Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
news:eJBHlXb8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> DO NOT set a constraint as to the day they are to start unless you 
> actually HAVE to have the constraint.  The only time I like to see 
> constraints is in cases of, say, a part is backordered from a supplier and 
> won't arrive until a certain date, meaning the task that uses it can't 
> start until that date even though everything else in the project might be 
> ready for it to go earlier than that.
>
> When you set a constraint by manually typing the date and do not 
> explicitly type the time, Project will use the Default Start field on the 
> Calendar Option page to supply it.  If you use the little picklist 
> calendar in the Gantt chart Start field to pick the constraint date, 
> Project uses the start of the workday as defined in the working time 
> calendar (Tools, ChangeWorkingTime) to determine the time element.
>
> You should not be telling Project the dates you think tasks should start 
> or dates you want them to start.  Projects job is to tell you the dates 
> you ought to schedule in order to have the shortest duration project.  You 
> don't tell it the dates you want - it tells you the dates you can get.
>
> Your project working time calendar should reflect the normal working hours 
> of a typical resource in your project.  If your team works 730am to 5 pm 
> then that's what your hours of work in "Tools/ChangeWorkingTime" should 
> reflect.  But don't forget to back out lunch - no work takes place during 
> lunchtime - If they get 30 minutes for lunch then 0730-1700 is a 9 hour 
> workday, not 9.5 hours.  Failure to enter it as 0730-1200 and 1230-1700 or 
> whatever the actual times are would mean your man-hour calculations are 
> going to be off 30 minutes per resource per day, a signifigant error on 
> any but the most trivial projects.  Once you have your working time set 
> for the Project calendar, go to the Tools/Options/Calendar settings and 
> bring Default Start and Default End plus the Hours per Day and Hours per 
> Week settings into conformity with it.  Then go to Project Start Date and 
> verify that it shows the start time of the workday as the start time of 
> the project.  Then and only then should you begin entering tasks.  DO NOT 
> try to enter start dates for individual tasks - your initial task list 
> will show all the tasks starting on the project start date and that's 
> perfectly fine - if you didn't have some tasks physically dependent on 
> others (gotta put up the walls before adding the roof) and if you had an 
> infinite number of resources you really would do all the tasks at once and 
> get it done.  The only things that causes tasks to be in sequence instead 
> of running in parallel is a) some tasks require the deliverables from 
> prior tasks to be completed before they can start, and b) some tasks will 
> have to wait until the resources that can do them are free.  After you put 
> in the dependency links and assign/level resources, Project will give you 
> a schedule showing you the dates when you ought to plan to do the tasks in 
> question. Before you get those pieces of the puzzle in place don't even 
> think about the dates where tasks will be scheduled - such date 
> considerations are premature.  As I said before, you don't tell Project 
> the schedule, it tells you.
> -- 
> Steve House
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>
>
>
> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:1F6CAFC5-D1D3-4F64-8605-57DA43915454@microsoft.com...
>> Txs Rob and Steve.
>> I still couldn't fix my calendar to show 1 day duration as 1 day work 
>> (from 8 till 17:00). At the moment it shows 24 hours but both my 
>> calendars finish the day at 17:00! Also the start day shows 7:30, 
>> sometimes 8:00, sometimes 9:00 !! even though they are not linked to any 
>> other task, only have a constraint which day to start.
>>
>> Please, help I am completely LOST.
>>
>> Txs
>>
>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>> news:Ov3AHsV8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> No, you can't "cancel the time" - it is always a part of the date field 
>>> even if you choose not to display it.  And you should NOT ever be 
>>> manually entering dates and/or times unless you expressly need to set a 
>>> constraint. Why is it a problem for you?  If you have a task that 
>>> requires 10 hours of work and starts at 1 in the afternoon, with the 
>>> resource going home at 5pm, doesn't it follow logically that is should 
>>> continue over into the next day? If the task is able to start at 1, 
>>> shouldn't it go ahead and do so?  Why have your resource sitting aound 
>>> for the afternoon twiddling his thumbs - go ahead, have him get as much 
>>> work done on the task as he can before he goes home on first day and 
>>> then finish it up when he comes back on the next workday.  It's a rare 
>>> task that actually has to be worked starting at the precise start of the 
>>> day and takes an exact integer multiple of the workday to complete.
>>> -- 
>>> Steve House
>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:769F4C69-D441-47E6-9970-AA3272D5887F@microsoft.com...
>>>>I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 till 
>>>>17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set 
>>>>manually the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>>>>
>>>> Txs again
>>>> Silene
>>>>
>>>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT 
>>>>> set the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in Project 
>>>>> are actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a start date, 
>>>>> such as when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start 
>>>>> No Earlier constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must assume 
>>>>> a time to apply. These fields designate the time Project assumes. 
>>>>> Durations are always stored and computed in minuites.  When you enter 
>>>>> a duration such as "3 days" Project must convert your entry to 
>>>>> minutes - the Hours per Day, Hours per Week, and Days per Month fields 
>>>>> on that page set the conversion factors it uses.   You set your 
>>>>> working day times in the calendar on Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the 
>>>>> menu.  The Calendar Options page fields should be consistent with the 
>>>>> calendar you designate as the Project Calendar but making settings on 
>>>>> the Options page does not setup the calendar.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Steve House
>>>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it 
>>>>>> shows 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work 
>>>>>> (duration), the next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these 
>>>>>> problems?
>>>>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 
>>>>>> but my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this 
>>>>>> a problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in 
>>>>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working time? 
>>>>>>> Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the next 
>>>>>>> day? Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
>>>>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which 
>>>>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you 
>>>>>>> think starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --rms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, 
>>>>>>>> e.g. 3
>>>>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my 
>>>>>>>> Gants
>>>>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to 
>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same 
>>>>>>>> dates
>>>>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> 

Task scheduling driven by resource availability is not a valid reason to use 
constraint's, IMHO.  Imagine Joe needs to do both Task X and Task Y, each of 
which is expected to take 5 days.  Both tasks are originally scheduled for 
next week, starting Monday.  Task X has a higher priority.  By your method 
you'd apply a Start No Earlier than constraint on Y to move it into the 
following week.  So far, so good.  But imagine now that a new resource, 
Mary, comes into the picture who is also capable of doing task Y.  You pull 
Joe off Y and replace him with Mary.  With the constraint pusahing its start 
out to a week from Monday it will still remain unecessarily delayed by a 
week.  But if you had done it the correct way, using Task Priority settings 
(Task Information form, General page) coupled with resource leveling to 
resolove Joe's original overallocation, as soon as you take Joe off of Y, 
replace him with Mary, and re-level, Task Y moves back up a week and you get 
it done a week earlier than before.

In the situation where a resource was shceduled for a one day task last week 
and didn't do it, you don't change the duration in the first place. 
Duration is the amount of working time minutes between when work first takes 
place on the task and the last moment when work is still going on.  In your 
example of a one-day task that was supposed to happen last week but didn't, 
its duration hasn't been changed by the delay - its still a one-day task. 
Use the Tracking tools Reschedule Unfinished Work to move it forward to the 
earliest date you think it will be able to start.  The does, in fact, set a 
SNET constraint on the resume date but it also splits in progress tasks, 
letting the worked portion stay on the dates it really did get some progress 
done and moving the unworked portion forward to the resume date without 
screwing up durations, completion percentages, work estimates, etc.

As far as the Project Start Date not changing, that is driven by the Default 
Start setting on Tools, Options, Calendar and is initially set to whatever 
the default was when you first created the project file from scratch (unless 
you actually designate a time, of course) and it doesn't update if you 
change the Default Start later on. Default changes are almost never 
retroactive.  Simply re-enter the field using the start of the workday as 
the start time on your project kick-off date to update it.
-- 
Steve House
MS Project Trainer & Consultant



"Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:335F46F2-A354-4CAA-A860-AE4A53313A00@microsoft.com...
>I am glad to have all your information, it tells me I am trying to do just 
>so. But I do have a lot of constraint because I have a few projects that 
>use the same resource and the priority keeps changing, so e.g.: a task that 
>was suppose to be done last week in 1 day by 1 resource will be done maybe 
>only the week after, if I keep increasing the duration I have to decrease 
>the % of work the resource is going to do, right? and I don't like to do 
>this mathematics.
> About the working hours, I've done it all. Now, I can see on my master 
> project that the day starts at 7:30 and finishes at 5 but on the project 
> start date still shows 8:00!??
> The minus on MS project is that all the changes in the calendars shows 
> only from the day was mofidied and doesn't update the projects that is 
> already running!!
>
> Anyway, many thanks for all the answers, you've been a great help!
>
> Silene
>
> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
> news:eJBHlXb8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> DO NOT set a constraint as to the day they are to start unless you 
>> actually HAVE to have the constraint.  The only time I like to see 
>> constraints is in cases of, say, a part is backordered from a supplier 
>> and won't arrive until a certain date, meaning the task that uses it 
>> can't start until that date even though everything else in the project 
>> might be ready for it to go earlier than that.
>>
>> When you set a constraint by manually typing the date and do not 
>> explicitly type the time, Project will use the Default Start field on the 
>> Calendar Option page to supply it.  If you use the little picklist 
>> calendar in the Gantt chart Start field to pick the constraint date, 
>> Project uses the start of the workday as defined in the working time 
>> calendar (Tools, ChangeWorkingTime) to determine the time element.
>>
>> You should not be telling Project the dates you think tasks should start 
>> or dates you want them to start.  Projects job is to tell you the dates 
>> you ought to schedule in order to have the shortest duration project. 
>> You don't tell it the dates you want - it tells you the dates you can 
>> get.
>>
>> Your project working time calendar should reflect the normal working 
>> hours of a typical resource in your project.  If your team works 730am to 
>> 5 pm then that's what your hours of work in "Tools/ChangeWorkingTime" 
>> should reflect.  But don't forget to back out lunch - no work takes place 
>> during lunchtime - If they get 30 minutes for lunch then 0730-1700 is a 9 
>> hour workday, not 9.5 hours.  Failure to enter it as 0730-1200 and 
>> 1230-1700 or whatever the actual times are would mean your man-hour 
>> calculations are going to be off 30 minutes per resource per day, a 
>> signifigant error on any but the most trivial projects.  Once you have 
>> your working time set for the Project calendar, go to the 
>> Tools/Options/Calendar settings and bring Default Start and Default End 
>> plus the Hours per Day and Hours per Week settings into conformity with 
>> it.  Then go to Project Start Date and verify that it shows the start 
>> time of the workday as the start time of the project.  Then and only then 
>> should you begin entering tasks.  DO NOT try to enter start dates for 
>> individual tasks - your initial task list will show all the tasks 
>> starting on the project start date and that's perfectly fine - if you 
>> didn't have some tasks physically dependent on others (gotta put up the 
>> walls before adding the roof) and if you had an infinite number of 
>> resources you really would do all the tasks at once and get it done.  The 
>> only things that causes tasks to be in sequence instead of running in 
>> parallel is a) some tasks require the deliverables from prior tasks to be 
>> completed before they can start, and b) some tasks will have to wait 
>> until the resources that can do them are free.  After you put in the 
>> dependency links and assign/level resources, Project will give you a 
>> schedule showing you the dates when you ought to plan to do the tasks in 
>> question. Before you get those pieces of the puzzle in place don't even 
>> think about the dates where tasks will be scheduled - such date 
>> considerations are premature.  As I said before, you don't tell Project 
>> the schedule, it tells you.
>> -- 
>> Steve House
>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>
>>
>>
>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:1F6CAFC5-D1D3-4F64-8605-57DA43915454@microsoft.com...
>>> Txs Rob and Steve.
>>> I still couldn't fix my calendar to show 1 day duration as 1 day work 
>>> (from 8 till 17:00). At the moment it shows 24 hours but both my 
>>> calendars finish the day at 17:00! Also the start day shows 7:30, 
>>> sometimes 8:00, sometimes 9:00 !! even though they are not linked to any 
>>> other task, only have a constraint which day to start.
>>>
>>> Please, help I am completely LOST.
>>>
>>> Txs
>>>
>>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>>> news:Ov3AHsV8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> No, you can't "cancel the time" - it is always a part of the date field 
>>>> even if you choose not to display it.  And you should NOT ever be 
>>>> manually entering dates and/or times unless you expressly need to set a 
>>>> constraint. Why is it a problem for you?  If you have a task that 
>>>> requires 10 hours of work and starts at 1 in the afternoon, with the 
>>>> resource going home at 5pm, doesn't it follow logically that is should 
>>>> continue over into the next day? If the task is able to start at 1, 
>>>> shouldn't it go ahead and do so?  Why have your resource sitting aound 
>>>> for the afternoon twiddling his thumbs - go ahead, have him get as much 
>>>> work done on the task as he can before he goes home on first day and 
>>>> then finish it up when he comes back on the next workday.  It's a rare 
>>>> task that actually has to be worked starting at the precise start of 
>>>> the day and takes an exact integer multiple of the workday to complete.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Steve House
>>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:769F4C69-D441-47E6-9970-AA3272D5887F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 
>>>>>till 17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set 
>>>>>manually the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Txs again
>>>>> Silene
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO NOT 
>>>>>> set the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in Project 
>>>>>> are actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a start date, 
>>>>>> such as when entering the Project Start date or when entering a Start 
>>>>>> No Earlier constraint, and do not supply the time, Project must 
>>>>>> assume a time to apply. These fields designate the time Project 
>>>>>> assumes. Durations are always stored and computed in minuites.  When 
>>>>>> you enter a duration such as "3 days" Project must convert your entry 
>>>>>> to minutes - the Hours per Day, Hours per Week, and Days per Month 
>>>>>> fields on that page set the conversion factors it uses.   You set 
>>>>>> your working day times in the calendar on Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in 
>>>>>> the menu.  The Calendar Options page fields should be consistent with 
>>>>>> the calendar you designate as the Project Calendar but making 
>>>>>> settings on the Options page does not setup the calendar.
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Steve House
>>>>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it 
>>>>>>> shows 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work 
>>>>>>> (duration), the next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these 
>>>>>>> problems?
>>>>>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 17:00 
>>>>>>> but my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. Is this 
>>>>>>> a problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in 
>>>>>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working 
>>>>>>>> time? Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the 
>>>>>>>> next day? Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
>>>>>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which 
>>>>>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you 
>>>>>>>> think starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --rms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, 
>>>>>>>>> e.g. 3
>>>>>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my 
>>>>>>>>> Gants
>>>>>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to 
>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same 
>>>>>>>>> dates
>>>>>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> 

Thanks again Steve, you gave a few valuable tips that I will try on.

"Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
news:#dhskNR9KHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Task scheduling driven by resource availability is not a valid reason to 
> use constraint's, IMHO.  Imagine Joe needs to do both Task X and Task Y, 
> each of which is expected to take 5 days.  Both tasks are originally 
> scheduled for next week, starting Monday.  Task X has a higher priority. 
> By your method you'd apply a Start No Earlier than constraint on Y to move 
> it into the following week.  So far, so good.  But imagine now that a new 
> resource, Mary, comes into the picture who is also capable of doing task 
> Y.  You pull Joe off Y and replace him with Mary.  With the constraint 
> pusahing its start out to a week from Monday it will still remain 
> unecessarily delayed by a week.  But if you had done it the correct way, 
> using Task Priority settings (Task Information form, General page) coupled 
> with resource leveling to resolove Joe's original overallocation, as soon 
> as you take Joe off of Y, replace him with Mary, and re-level, Task Y 
> moves back up a week and you get it done a week earlier than before.
>
> In the situation where a resource was shceduled for a one day task last 
> week and didn't do it, you don't change the duration in the first place. 
> Duration is the amount of working time minutes between when work first 
> takes place on the task and the last moment when work is still going on. 
> In your example of a one-day task that was supposed to happen last week 
> but didn't, its duration hasn't been changed by the delay - its still a 
> one-day task. Use the Tracking tools Reschedule Unfinished Work to move it 
> forward to the earliest date you think it will be able to start.  The 
> does, in fact, set a SNET constraint on the resume date but it also splits 
> in progress tasks, letting the worked portion stay on the dates it really 
> did get some progress done and moving the unworked portion forward to the 
> resume date without screwing up durations, completion percentages, work 
> estimates, etc.
>
> As far as the Project Start Date not changing, that is driven by the 
> Default Start setting on Tools, Options, Calendar and is initially set to 
> whatever the default was when you first created the project file from 
> scratch (unless you actually designate a time, of course) and it doesn't 
> update if you change the Default Start later on. Default changes are 
> almost never retroactive.  Simply re-enter the field using the start of 
> the workday as the start time on your project kick-off date to update it.
> -- 
> Steve House
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>
>
>
> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:335F46F2-A354-4CAA-A860-AE4A53313A00@microsoft.com...
>>I am glad to have all your information, it tells me I am trying to do just 
>>so. But I do have a lot of constraint because I have a few projects that 
>>use the same resource and the priority keeps changing, so e.g.: a task 
>>that was suppose to be done last week in 1 day by 1 resource will be done 
>>maybe only the week after, if I keep increasing the duration I have to 
>>decrease the % of work the resource is going to do, right? and I don't 
>>like to do this mathematics.
>> About the working hours, I've done it all. Now, I can see on my master 
>> project that the day starts at 7:30 and finishes at 5 but on the project 
>> start date still shows 8:00!??
>> The minus on MS project is that all the changes in the calendars shows 
>> only from the day was mofidied and doesn't update the projects that is 
>> already running!!
>>
>> Anyway, many thanks for all the answers, you've been a great help!
>>
>> Silene
>>
>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>> news:eJBHlXb8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> DO NOT set a constraint as to the day they are to start unless you 
>>> actually HAVE to have the constraint.  The only time I like to see 
>>> constraints is in cases of, say, a part is backordered from a supplier 
>>> and won't arrive until a certain date, meaning the task that uses it 
>>> can't start until that date even though everything else in the project 
>>> might be ready for it to go earlier than that.
>>>
>>> When you set a constraint by manually typing the date and do not 
>>> explicitly type the time, Project will use the Default Start field on 
>>> the Calendar Option page to supply it.  If you use the little picklist 
>>> calendar in the Gantt chart Start field to pick the constraint date, 
>>> Project uses the start of the workday as defined in the working time 
>>> calendar (Tools, ChangeWorkingTime) to determine the time element.
>>>
>>> You should not be telling Project the dates you think tasks should start 
>>> or dates you want them to start.  Projects job is to tell you the dates 
>>> you ought to schedule in order to have the shortest duration project. 
>>> You don't tell it the dates you want - it tells you the dates you can 
>>> get.
>>>
>>> Your project working time calendar should reflect the normal working 
>>> hours of a typical resource in your project.  If your team works 730am 
>>> to 5 pm then that's what your hours of work in "Tools/ChangeWorkingTime" 
>>> should reflect.  But don't forget to back out lunch - no work takes 
>>> place during lunchtime - If they get 30 minutes for lunch then 0730-1700 
>>> is a 9 hour workday, not 9.5 hours.  Failure to enter it as 0730-1200 
>>> and 1230-1700 or whatever the actual times are would mean your man-hour 
>>> calculations are going to be off 30 minutes per resource per day, a 
>>> signifigant error on any but the most trivial projects.  Once you have 
>>> your working time set for the Project calendar, go to the 
>>> Tools/Options/Calendar settings and bring Default Start and Default End 
>>> plus the Hours per Day and Hours per Week settings into conformity with 
>>> it.  Then go to Project Start Date and verify that it shows the start 
>>> time of the workday as the start time of the project.  Then and only 
>>> then should you begin entering tasks.  DO NOT try to enter start dates 
>>> for individual tasks - your initial task list will show all the tasks 
>>> starting on the project start date and that's perfectly fine - if you 
>>> didn't have some tasks physically dependent on others (gotta put up the 
>>> walls before adding the roof) and if you had an infinite number of 
>>> resources you really would do all the tasks at once and get it done. 
>>> The only things that causes tasks to be in sequence instead of running 
>>> in parallel is a) some tasks require the deliverables from prior tasks 
>>> to be completed before they can start, and b) some tasks will have to 
>>> wait until the resources that can do them are free.  After you put in 
>>> the dependency links and assign/level resources, Project will give you a 
>>> schedule showing you the dates when you ought to plan to do the tasks in 
>>> question. Before you get those pieces of the puzzle in place don't even 
>>> think about the dates where tasks will be scheduled - such date 
>>> considerations are premature.  As I said before, you don't tell Project 
>>> the schedule, it tells you.
>>> -- 
>>> Steve House
>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:1F6CAFC5-D1D3-4F64-8605-57DA43915454@microsoft.com...
>>>> Txs Rob and Steve.
>>>> I still couldn't fix my calendar to show 1 day duration as 1 day work 
>>>> (from 8 till 17:00). At the moment it shows 24 hours but both my 
>>>> calendars finish the day at 17:00! Also the start day shows 7:30, 
>>>> sometimes 8:00, sometimes 9:00 !! even though they are not linked to 
>>>> any other task, only have a constraint which day to start.
>>>>
>>>> Please, help I am completely LOST.
>>>>
>>>> Txs
>>>>
>>>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:Ov3AHsV8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> No, you can't "cancel the time" - it is always a part of the date 
>>>>> field even if you choose not to display it.  And you should NOT ever 
>>>>> be manually entering dates and/or times unless you expressly need to 
>>>>> set a constraint. Why is it a problem for you?  If you have a task 
>>>>> that requires 10 hours of work and starts at 1 in the afternoon, with 
>>>>> the resource going home at 5pm, doesn't it follow logically that is 
>>>>> should continue over into the next day? If the task is able to start 
>>>>> at 1, shouldn't it go ahead and do so?  Why have your resource sitting 
>>>>> aound for the afternoon twiddling his thumbs - go ahead, have him get 
>>>>> as much work done on the task as he can before he goes home on first 
>>>>> day and then finish it up when he comes back on the next workday. 
>>>>> It's a rare task that actually has to be worked starting at the 
>>>>> precise start of the day and takes an exact integer multiple of the 
>>>>> workday to complete.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Steve House
>>>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:769F4C69-D441-47E6-9970-AA3272D5887F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>I understand, I think I fixed the calendar so I see one day as 7:30 
>>>>>>till 17:00 but the question is: can I cancel the time or I have to set 
>>>>>>manually the time of "broken days"? It seems a lot of work!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Txs again
>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve House" <sjhouse at hotmail dot com> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:OM4l7BC8KHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> The Calendar Options page default start and default end fields DO 
>>>>>>> NOT set the start and end of the working day.  All date fields in 
>>>>>>> Project are actually date/time fields.  When you manually type a 
>>>>>>> start date, such as when entering the Project Start date or when 
>>>>>>> entering a Start No Earlier constraint, and do not supply the time, 
>>>>>>> Project must assume a time to apply. These fields designate the time 
>>>>>>> Project assumes. Durations are always stored and computed in 
>>>>>>> minuites.  When you enter a duration such as "3 days" Project must 
>>>>>>> convert your entry to minutes - the Hours per Day, Hours per Week, 
>>>>>>> and Days per Month fields on that page set the conversion factors it 
>>>>>>> uses.   You set your working day times in the calendar on 
>>>>>>> Tools/ChangeWorkingTime in the menu.  The Calendar Options page 
>>>>>>> fields should be consistent with the calendar you designate as the 
>>>>>>> Project Calendar but making settings on the Options page does not 
>>>>>>> setup the calendar.
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Steve House
>>>>>>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Silene" <sileneev@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:eoFTbMA8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> You are right! Even though my calendar is a 9 hour working day, it 
>>>>>>>> shows 1 day(duration) as 24 hours. If I have a half day work 
>>>>>>>> (duration), the next day starts at 13:00! How do I fix these 
>>>>>>>> problems?
>>>>>>>> Also in the Options/calendar the working day is from 8:00 till 
>>>>>>>> 17:00 but my resource calendar is from 7:30-12:00 and 12:30-17:00. 
>>>>>>>> Is this a problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rob Schneider" <rmschne@yahoo_but_not_often_checked.com> wrote in 
>>>>>>>> message news:#4fYC007KHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Probably because there is a mis-match of calendars and working 
>>>>>>>>> time? Could be that the "time" of the task are pushing them to the 
>>>>>>>>> next day? Display the times in the date/time columns with Menu: 
>>>>>>>>> Tools/Options/View, Date format, and pick something with Time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You could be inadvertently starting a 3 day task at 10:00 am which 
>>>>>>>>> means that three days will be one day later than a task that you 
>>>>>>>>> think starts at the start of the working day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --rms
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> www.rmschneider.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/10 08:41, Silene wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> When I set any duration on my Gant it always shows a extra day, 
>>>>>>>>>> e.g. 3
>>>>>>>>>> days it means starts on 5/9/10 and finishes on 5/11/10 but on my 
>>>>>>>>>> Gants
>>>>>>>>>> it shows 5/12/10, it happens with 1 day also. I don't know how to 
>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>> that. Now I got a Gant from a Client and I have to show the same 
>>>>>>>>>> dates
>>>>>>>>>> and obviously it doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>>> Please, help!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Silene
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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