I am currently PAYING for my Hotmail because I wanted to be able to download 
my Hotmail emails to Outlook. Before Outlook Connector, and after the switch 
from Hotmail to Live mail, this was the only way to do this. In other words, 
for a few months, the only way to download Hotmail items locally to Outlook 
was to subscribe to the Hotmail pay service.

Since then, from what I understand, Outlook Connector handles this sort of 
thing for free.

If the only reason I'm paying for Hotmail is the ability to download mail 
into Outlook (and back it up to PST file), am I currently paying for my 
Hotmail service for no reason?

Should I feel free to cancel it?

I feel like I've been had, here.

Thanks. 

That would be a question for Hotmail, not Outlook.

"mjs" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message 
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:I am currently PAYING for my Hotmail because I wanted to be able to 
download
: my Hotmail emails to Outlook. Before Outlook Connector, and after the 
switch
: from Hotmail to Live mail, this was the only way to do this. In other 
words,
: for a few months, the only way to download Hotmail items locally to 
Outlook
: was to subscribe to the Hotmail pay service.
:
: Since then, from what I understand, Outlook Connector handles this sort of
: thing for free.
:
: If the only reason I'm paying for Hotmail is the ability to download mail
: into Outlook (and back it up to PST file), am I currently paying for my
: Hotmail service for no reason?
:
: Should I feel free to cancel it?
:
: I feel like I've been had, here.
:
: Thanks.
:
: 

If that is your only reason for using a paid version of hotmail, yes, it's 
for nothing. Paid accounts do have other benefits though.
See http://www.gowindowslive.com/hotmailplus/en-us/default.aspx for the 
benefits.

-- 
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
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"mjs" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message 
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> I am currently PAYING for my Hotmail because I wanted to be able to 
> download my Hotmail emails to Outlook. Before Outlook Connector, and after 
> the switch from Hotmail to Live mail, this was the only way to do this. In 
> other words, for a few months, the only way to download Hotmail items 
> locally to Outlook was to subscribe to the Hotmail pay service.
>
> Since then, from what I understand, Outlook Connector handles this sort of 
> thing for free.
>
> If the only reason I'm paying for Hotmail is the ability to download mail 
> into Outlook (and back it up to PST file), am I currently paying for my 
> Hotmail service for no reason?
>
> Should I feel free to cancel it?
>
> I feel like I've been had, here.
>
> Thanks.
> 

"mjs" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message 
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> Since then, from what I understand, Outlook Connector handles this sort of 
> thing for free.
>
> If the only reason I'm paying for Hotmail is the ability to download mail 
> into Outlook (and back it up to PST file), am I currently paying for my 
> Hotmail service for no reason?

A paid Hotmail account allows for additional benefits, like increased storage, 
but, yea, I think most people will find they don't need their paid accounts 
any more.

This is how I remember it.  If I get some details wrong, I know someone else 
will have them.

Prior to 2004, free Hotmail access through an HTTP (WebDAV) account using 
Outlook or Outlook Express was permited.  In 2004, however, for new Hotmail 
accounts, it became necessary to purchase a Hotmail Plus or Premium account if 
you wanted to access Hotmail with Outlook.  Along with those accounts came the 
right to use POP to access the Hotmail mailboxes (for the Premium accounts). 
Additionally, paid account holders could use "Outlook Live", which was a 
downloadable copy of Outlook that used a version of the Outlook Connector. 
Most free accounts had their HTTP access disabled at that point, although some 
accounts that had existed for "a while" (I don't know what "a while" is) prior 
to that were grandfathered in and remained free (mine was one of them).

In March of 2009, POP access to Hotmail mailboxes was rolled out world-wide. 
Some non-US sites had free POP access prior to that.  In June of 2009, 
Microsoft announced that as of September 1, 2009, WebDAV would stop working 
and than a new protocol, DeltaSync, would be needed.  This new protocol was 
implemented in the current Outlook Connector (and Windows Live Mail). 
DeltaSync also saw the reenabling of free access to Hotmail with Outlook.
-- 
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] 

Thank you Brian and Diane.

Could you tell me where to go to cancel the paid subscription? I'm looking 
around and having a difficult time finding it.

I love Hotmail/Live mail, but I was only paying for the ability to download 
the emails locally. Turns out I've been paying for this benefit for an 
entire year for no reason at all. Us paying members would have appreciated 
some kind of notice that downloading emails is now a free service.

Since my subscription just auto-renewed (notice of this is what alerted me 
to the fact that I was probably paying for nothing) meaning I will have paid 
*2* years for nothing by the time this runs out.

Again, when a service that is exclusive to a paid membership becomes free 
for all, it's probably a good idea to alert paying members.



"Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]" <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> "mjs" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message 
> news:ewK6duQ0KHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Since then, from what I understand, Outlook Connector handles this sort 
>> of thing for free.
>>
>> If the only reason I'm paying for Hotmail is the ability to download mail 
>> into Outlook (and back it up to PST file), am I currently paying for my 
>> Hotmail service for no reason?
>
> A paid Hotmail account allows for additional benefits, like increased 
> storage, but, yea, I think most people will find they don't need their 
> paid accounts any more.
>
> This is how I remember it.  If I get some details wrong, I know someone 
> else will have them.
>
> Prior to 2004, free Hotmail access through an HTTP (WebDAV) account using 
> Outlook or Outlook Express was permited.  In 2004, however, for new 
> Hotmail accounts, it became necessary to purchase a Hotmail Plus or 
> Premium account if you wanted to access Hotmail with Outlook.  Along with 
> those accounts came the right to use POP to access the Hotmail mailboxes 
> (for the Premium accounts). Additionally, paid account holders could use 
> "Outlook Live", which was a downloadable copy of Outlook that used a 
> version of the Outlook Connector. Most free accounts had their HTTP access 
> disabled at that point, although some accounts that had existed for "a 
> while" (I don't know what "a while" is) prior to that were grandfathered 
> in and remained free (mine was one of them).
>
> In March of 2009, POP access to Hotmail mailboxes was rolled out 
> world-wide. Some non-US sites had free POP access prior to that.  In June 
> of 2009, Microsoft announced that as of September 1, 2009, WebDAV would 
> stop working and than a new protocol, DeltaSync, would be needed.  This 
> new protocol was implemented in the current Outlook Connector (and Windows 
> Live Mail). DeltaSync also saw the reenabling of free access to Hotmail 
> with Outlook.
> -- 
> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] 

Please ignore this request, I contacted Microsoft Support and they confirmed 
that that was the only way to do it.

"mjs" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message 
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> Thank you Brian and Diane.
>
> Could you tell me where to go to cancel the paid subscription? I'm looking 
> around and having a difficult time finding it.