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I thought I would minimize the garbage that might install while
loading office:mac onto my imac. So, of course I made sure to do a
custom install and did not install msn messenger or entourage...
However, I think I made a mistake when I did not install the proofing
tools. I saw that the file was quite large and did not want all the
uneeded languages. Yet, now I see spell check is greyed out and cannot
be used. When I try to load the installation disk it will not let me
get through to the custom install... it tells me I already have a
newer version of office 2008. I was able to "right" click on the cd
and find the office2008_en_proofing_english.pkg file but am not sure
where to put it. Any ideas? I thought about uninstalling and
reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
Thanks so much for your help!!!

-Tom
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Reply scienceprofessor 4/13/2010 4:24:35 AM

Hi Tom

I can't help you with the problem you describe, but:

> I thought about uninstalling and
> reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
> Thanks so much for your help!!!

You do not need to use another serial key when you uninstall and then 
reinstall. Office 2008 does not need to be activated, so in theory, you 
can use each product key as many times as you want. Keep in mind that 
doing so would be illegal, though, and an authenticity checker that runs 
in the background would prevent you from running the same copy on 
multiple computers on the same network simultaneously.

Long story short: you can reinstall using the same product key without 
any problems.

-- 
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Microsoft MVP (Macintosh)

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Reply Michel 4/13/2010 4:55:25 AM


Hi Tom:

I understand your thinking, but Microsoft Office isn't really built like
that.  Really, it's a core, with four different user interfaces (most modern
suites are done this way...)

Which means it's not really a very good idea to leave bits out when you
install.  You may save 40 MB of disk space (the saving is not large, trust
me...) but the thing never works right.

If I were you, I would do a Remove and Replace (because if you don't Remove,
the re-install won't do anything...)

This is the "Scorched Earth" fix.  Whatever it is, if it's caused by Office,
this should fix it.  It's not as laborious as it looks; it's actually
quicker to do it than to read it...

1)  Track down all instances of pre-2008 Normal template on your computer,
and drag them to your desktop.  The file is called simply "Normal" and has
no extension.

2)  Run the Remove Office tool from
</Applications/Microsoft Office 2008/Additional Tools/Remove Office>

3)  Find and delete the file Normal.dotm.  Unless you have moved it, it
should be in
~/Library/Application Support/Microsoft/Office/User Templates/

4)  If the following files exist, Remove or rename them:

 ~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Word Settings (10)

 ~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Word Settings (11)

 ~/Library/Preferences/com.Microsoft.Word.plist

5) ~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office 2008 (the whole folder!)

6) Ensure that your copy of OS X is right up-to-date with the latest patches
issued by Apple.  Run Software Update until it finds nothing!

7) Now insert the CD and install Office 2008.

8) Then Repair Permissions with Disk Utility.

9) Now start Font Book and "Resolve Duplicates".  Office installs some later
versions of fonts already in place: you must get the duplicates out, or Word
will crash.

10) Then re-install or reapply the 12.2.0 and 12.2.3 and 12.2.4 updates, in
that order.

11) Repair permissions again.

12)  Now shut down, wait for the power to go off, then re-start.  This fires
the Unix clean-up scripts.

Hope this helps

On 13/04/10 2:24 PM, in article
cadc6ef5-5ccc-49ae-9b65-a9aa75c32480@g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com,
"scienceprofessor" <tomsemailaccount@gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought I would minimize the garbage that might install while
> loading office:mac onto my imac. So, of course I made sure to do a
> custom install and did not install msn messenger or entourage...
> However, I think I made a mistake when I did not install the proofing
> tools. I saw that the file was quite large and did not want all the
> uneeded languages. Yet, now I see spell check is greyed out and cannot
> be used. When I try to load the installation disk it will not let me
> get through to the custom install... it tells me I already have a
> newer version of office 2008. I was able to "right" click on the cd
> and find the office2008_en_proofing_english.pkg file but am not sure
> where to put it. Any ideas? I thought about uninstalling and
> reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
> Thanks so much for your help!!!
> 
> -Tom

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Reply John 4/13/2010 12:20:10 PM

You can download and use a Program called Pacifist and open CD and drop 
the CD/DVD icon on to Pacifist. it will load the entire installer then 
you can the individual components as need. You might have to run the 
updater. It works on DMG installers as well as PKG installers as well.

can save your backside if your desperate.

Michel Bintener wrote:
> Hi Tom
>
> I can't help you with the problem you describe, but:
>
>> I thought about uninstalling and
>> reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
>> Thanks so much for your help!!!
>
> You do not need to use another serial key when you uninstall and then
> reinstall. Office 2008 does not need to be activated, so in theory, you
> can use each product key as many times as you want. Keep in mind that
> doing so would be illegal, though, and an authenticity checker that runs
> in the background would prevent you from running the same copy on
> multiple computers on the same network simultaneously.
>
> Long story short: you can reinstall using the same product key without
> any problems.
>

-- 
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http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
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Reply Phillip 4/13/2010 2:33:48 PM

Careful, Phillip:

That's a recipe for a broken Office installation.

The individual installers in Office 2008 are not designed to run
stand-alone, and the results of doing so my be "high entertainment value".

cheers


On 14/04/10 12:33 AM, in article uCkbXZx2KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
"Phillip Jones, C.E.T." <pjones1@kimbanet.com> wrote:

> You can download and use a Program called Pacifist and open CD and drop
> the CD/DVD icon on to Pacifist. it will load the entire installer then
> you can the individual components as need. You might have to run the
> updater. It works on DMG installers as well as PKG installers as well.
> 
> can save your backside if your desperate.
> 
> Michel Bintener wrote:
>> Hi Tom
>> 
>> I can't help you with the problem you describe, but:
>> 
>>> I thought about uninstalling and
>>> reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
>>> Thanks so much for your help!!!
>> 
>> You do not need to use another serial key when you uninstall and then
>> reinstall. Office 2008 does not need to be activated, so in theory, you
>> can use each product key as many times as you want. Keep in mind that
>> doing so would be illegal, though, and an authenticity checker that runs
>> in the background would prevent you from running the same copy on
>> multiple computers on the same network simultaneously.
>> 
>> Long story short: you can reinstall using the same product key without
>> any problems.
>> 

 --

The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:john@mcghie.name


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Reply John 4/14/2010 4:24:01 AM

I've haven't done it on 2008  but have on other programs with no ill 
affects.

John McGhie wrote:
> Careful, Phillip:
>
> That's a recipe for a broken Office installation.
>
> The individual installers in Office 2008 are not designed to run
> stand-alone, and the results of doing so my be "high entertainment value".
>
> cheers
>
>
> On 14/04/10 12:33 AM, in article uCkbXZx2KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> "Phillip Jones, C.E.T."<pjones1@kimbanet.com>  wrote:
>
>> You can download and use a Program called Pacifist and open CD and drop
>> the CD/DVD icon on to Pacifist. it will load the entire installer then
>> you can the individual components as need. You might have to run the
>> updater. It works on DMG installers as well as PKG installers as well.
>>
>> can save your backside if your desperate.
>>
>> Michel Bintener wrote:
>>> Hi Tom
>>>
>>> I can't help you with the problem you describe, but:
>>>
>>>> I thought about uninstalling and
>>>> reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
>>>> Thanks so much for your help!!!
>>>
>>> You do not need to use another serial key when you uninstall and then
>>> reinstall. Office 2008 does not need to be activated, so in theory, you
>>> can use each product key as many times as you want. Keep in mind that
>>> doing so would be illegal, though, and an authenticity checker that runs
>>> in the background would prevent you from running the same copy on
>>> multiple computers on the same network simultaneously.
>>>
>>> Long story short: you can reinstall using the same product key without
>>> any problems.
>>>
>
>   --
>
> The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
> matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
>
> John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
> McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
> Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:john@mcghie.name
>
>

-- 
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http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
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Reply Phillip 4/14/2010 2:16:11 PM

On 2010-04-14 00:24:01 -0400, John McGhie said:

> The individual installers in Office 2008 are not designed to run
> stand-alone, and the results of doing so my be "high entertainment value".

I like your phrasing :-)
In addition, it makes updating really complicated.
It's sad, I agree, but I would uninstall and reinstall with the proper 
options. (then reupdate all the way)


Corentin


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Reply iso 4/14/2010 4:15:41 PM

Hi Phillip:

Do me a favour?  Please don't recommend it to anyone in here :-)

I wake in fright at night at the thought of having to help a user unpick the
mess that is likely to result :-)

Cheers


On 15/04/10 12:16 AM, in article O3iRK092KHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
"Phillip Jones, C.E.T." <pjones1@kimbanet.com> wrote:

> I've haven't done it on 2008  but have on other programs with no ill
> affects.
> 
> John McGhie wrote:
>> Careful, Phillip:
>> 
>> That's a recipe for a broken Office installation.
>> 
>> The individual installers in Office 2008 are not designed to run
>> stand-alone, and the results of doing so my be "high entertainment value".
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> 
>> On 14/04/10 12:33 AM, in article uCkbXZx2KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
>> "Phillip Jones, C.E.T."<pjones1@kimbanet.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> You can download and use a Program called Pacifist and open CD and drop
>>> the CD/DVD icon on to Pacifist. it will load the entire installer then
>>> you can the individual components as need. You might have to run the
>>> updater. It works on DMG installers as well as PKG installers as well.
>>> 
>>> can save your backside if your desperate.
>>> 
>>> Michel Bintener wrote:
>>>> Hi Tom
>>>> 
>>>> I can't help you with the problem you describe, but:
>>>> 
>>>>> I thought about uninstalling and
>>>>> reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
>>>>> Thanks so much for your help!!!
>>>> 
>>>> You do not need to use another serial key when you uninstall and then
>>>> reinstall. Office 2008 does not need to be activated, so in theory, you
>>>> can use each product key as many times as you want. Keep in mind that
>>>> doing so would be illegal, though, and an authenticity checker that runs
>>>> in the background would prevent you from running the same copy on
>>>> multiple computers on the same network simultaneously.
>>>> 
>>>> Long story short: you can reinstall using the same product key without
>>>> any problems.
>>>> 
>> 
>>   --
>> 
>> The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
>> matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
>> 
>> John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
>> McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
>> Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:john@mcghie.name
>> 
>> 

 --

The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:john@mcghie.name


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Reply John 4/14/2010 8:41:13 PM

Sure. No problem.

I just hate the thoughts of having to spend hours hunting down all the 
files scattered around that the uninstaller misses in Preferences, 
Applications support, Fonts. Then go through all those updaters and each 
took a long time to download and even longer to run.

Each time I download a updater often takes 20 minutes and another 5-10 
to actually install the upgrade.  If Office installers are like, Adobe 
installers, you have to download and install in exact order, there are 
no multiple version in one updater.   And I have a synchronous DSL line. 
  :-(

John McGhie wrote:
> Hi Phillip:
>
> Do me a favour?  Please don't recommend it to anyone in here :-)
>
> I wake in fright at night at the thought of having to help a user unpick the
> mess that is likely to result :-)
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On 15/04/10 12:16 AM, in article O3iRK092KHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> "Phillip Jones, C.E.T."<pjones1@kimbanet.com>  wrote:
>
>> I've haven't done it on 2008  but have on other programs with no ill
>> affects.
>>
>> John McGhie wrote:
>>> Careful, Phillip:
>>>
>>> That's a recipe for a broken Office installation.
>>>
>>> The individual installers in Office 2008 are not designed to run
>>> stand-alone, and the results of doing so my be "high entertainment value".
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/04/10 12:33 AM, in article uCkbXZx2KHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
>>> "Phillip Jones, C.E.T."<pjones1@kimbanet.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can download and use a Program called Pacifist and open CD and drop
>>>> the CD/DVD icon on to Pacifist. it will load the entire installer then
>>>> you can the individual components as need. You might have to run the
>>>> updater. It works on DMG installers as well as PKG installers as well.
>>>>
>>>> can save your backside if your desperate.
>>>>
>>>> Michel Bintener wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't help you with the problem you describe, but:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought about uninstalling and
>>>>>> reinstalling... but I did not want to risk using another serial key.
>>>>>> Thanks so much for your help!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> You do not need to use another serial key when you uninstall and then
>>>>> reinstall. Office 2008 does not need to be activated, so in theory, you
>>>>> can use each product key as many times as you want. Keep in mind that
>>>>> doing so would be illegal, though, and an authenticity checker that runs
>>>>> in the background would prevent you from running the same copy on
>>>>> multiple computers on the same network simultaneously.
>>>>>
>>>>> Long story short: you can reinstall using the same product key without
>>>>> any problems.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>    --
>>>
>>> The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
>>> matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
>>>
>>> John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
>>> McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
>>> Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:john@mcghie.name
>>>
>>>
>
>   --
>
> The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
> matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
>
> John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
> McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
> Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410 | mailto:john@mcghie.name
>
>

-- 
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http://www.phillipmjones.net           http://www.vpea.org
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