Internet Explorer 8: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe vs C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe

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I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there are 
two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the following 
locations:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is 
a 32-bit version)
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is the 
64-bit version)

First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is there 
any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I have 
not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not supposed to 
be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be 
better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would like to 
have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on my 
Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit 
hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically 
specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions and/or 
give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about it? 
Thanks.
-- 
Nathan Sokalski
njsokalski@hotmail.com
http://www.nathansokalski.com/ 

1
Reply Nathan 2/14/2010 3:28:55 AM

Hi, Nathan.

You are correct.  On 64-bit Win7, there BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions of 
IE8.

Some program developers are slow to move to the 64-bit world.  One of them, 
sadly, is Adobe.  Adobe Flash Player is one of the most popular tools on the 
Internet - but it has not yet been updated to work in a 64-bit browser.  But 
it will happily work in a 32-bit browser running in 64-bit Windows.  For 
Adobe's statement on this subject, see their TechNote, last updated 
10/21/09:
Flash Player support on 64-bit operating systems
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html

When we try to play a YouTube video in 64-bit IE8, it doesn't work.  When my 
grandson tries to play some of the videos on PBSKids.org, they don't work - 
unless the 32-bit IE8 is running.  To cut down on such frustrations, 
Microsoft set Win7 to run 32-bit IE8 by default.  If you want to run 64-bit 
IE8, then you can browse to it in Windows Explorer and double-click on 
iexplore.exe - or any of the other methods to run a program (pin to Start 
menu or taskbar, create a shortcut, etc.).

I did change the default to 64-bit, but I'm not sure it's a good idea.  When 
a Flash video refuses to run in 64-bit, just Copy the URL, start the 32-bit 
IE8 (which can be pinned to the Start menu), Paste the URL there and press 
Enter.

To see which version of IE8 is currently running, click Help | About 
Internet Explorer.  The 64-bit version will say "64-bit Edition"; the 32-bit 
edition doesn't mention "bitness" at all.

RC
-- 
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:8C0B3379-BFDB-4F2C-A1B4-AAB8794B0CF9@microsoft.com...
> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there 
> are two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the 
> following locations:
>
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this 
> is a 32-bit version)
> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is the 
> 64-bit version)
>
> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is 
> there any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and 
> I have not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not 
> supposed to be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is 
> supposed to be better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, 
> I would like to have everything use that if possible. I have changed any 
> shortcuts on my Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am 
> a little bit hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that 
> specifically specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these 
> questions and/or give me some information on some of what I can and/or 
> should do about it? Thanks.
> -- 
> Nathan Sokalski 

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Reply R 2/14/2010 4:40:52 AM


Nathan Sokalski wrote:

> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there
> are two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the
> following locations:
>
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this
> is a 32-bit version)
> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is the
> 64-bit version)
>
> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is
> there any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and
> I have not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not
> supposed to be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is
> supposed to be better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for
> 64-bit, I would like to have everything use that if possible. I have
> changed any shortcuts on my Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit
> version, but I am a little bit hesitant to change some of the values in
> the Registry that specifically specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone
> answer any of these questions and/or give me some information on some of
> what I can and/or should do about it? Thanks.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981
"I have Windows 7 64-bit and need to use Internet Explorer 32-bit".

-- 
Vincenzo Di Russo
Microsoft� MVP - Most Valuable Professional since 2003
Windows Internet Explorer, Windows Desktop Experience & Security
My MVP Profile: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Vincenzo
MS Answers: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/categories 

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Reply Vincenzo 2/14/2010 4:42:55 AM

May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?

The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:

     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows 
Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765

You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions

More: 
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981


Nathan Sokalski wrote:
> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there 
> are
> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the following
> locations:
>
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this 
> is
> a 32-bit version)
> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is the
> 64-bit version)
>
> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is 
> there
> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I have
> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not supposed 
> to
> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be
> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would like 
> to
> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on my
> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit
> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically
> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions 
> and/or
> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about it?
> Thanks. 

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Reply PA 2/14/2010 6:30:18 AM

The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:

1. That is the version that came with my new computer
2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists 
(although I'd have to double-check
3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and 
the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy figuring 
out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or alternative) 
I saw no reason to wait

Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I 
thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in makers 
that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 64-bit 
isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 64-bit 
versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware makers would 
offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would have made a 
64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone uses. But I'm a 
patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and alternatives, I'm a 
patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to give Windows 7 users a 32 
and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to complain about?
-- 
Nathan Sokalski
njsokalski@hotmail.com
http://www.nathansokalski.com/

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:#sbVFAUrKHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?
>
> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:
>
>     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows 
> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
>     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765
>
> You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: 
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions
>
> More: 
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981
>
>
> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there 
>> are
>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the 
>> following
>> locations:
>>
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this 
>> is
>> a 32-bit version)
>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is 
>> the
>> 64-bit version)
>>
>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is 
>> there
>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I 
>> have
>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not supposed 
>> to
>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be
>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would like 
>> to
>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on my
>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit
>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically
>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions 
>> and/or
>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about it?
>> Thanks.
> 
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Reply Nathan 2/14/2010 4:40:24 PM

645-bit Windows 7 should serve you well.  Ultimate does come in both 
32-bit and 64-bit, but but that's not really significant.

If you find any 16-bit based program that won't run on 64-bit you can 
always install a Virtual Machine program and run most of those type 
programs there.  Microsoft has an XP Mode VM for Win 7 Professional and 
Ultimate.  And, if you really need to run some old programs, there is 
DOSBox.

So, enjoy you 64-bit Win 7!



On 2010-02-14 11:40, Nathan Sokalski wrote:
> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:
>
> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer
> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that
> exists (although I'd have to double-check
> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit
> (and the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy
> figuring out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or
> alternative) I saw no reason to wait
>
> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I
> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in
> makers that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates.
> 64-bit isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were
> 64-bit versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware
> makers would offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe
> would have made a 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually
> everyone uses. But I'm a patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds
> and alternatives, I'm a patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough
> to give Windows 7 users a 32 and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I
> have to complain about?
1
Reply Bobby 2/14/2010 5:06:01 PM

Two tips: Never assume, and do your research/homework before buying a new 
computer or upgrading your current computer.

Nathan Sokalski wrote:
> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:
>
> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer
> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists
> (although I'd have to double-check
> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and
> the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy 
> figuring
> out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or 
> alternative)
> I saw no reason to wait
>
> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I
> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in makers
> that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 64-bit
> isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 64-bit
> versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware makers would
> offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would have made a
> 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone uses. But I'm a
> patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and alternatives, I'm a
> patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to give Windows 7 users a 
> 32
> and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to complain about?
>
>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?
>>
>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:
>>
>>     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows
>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
>>     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765 You should familiarize 
>> yourself with this FAQ:
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions 
>> More:
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981 
>> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there
>>> are
>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the
>>> following
>>> locations:
>>>
>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming 
>>> this
>>> is
>>> a 32-bit version)
>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is
>>> the
>>> 64-bit version)
>>>
>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is
>>> there
>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I
>>> have
>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not supposed
>>> to
>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be
>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would like
>>> to
>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on my
>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit
>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically
>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions
>>> and/or
>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about 
>>> it?
>>> Thanks. 

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Reply PA 2/14/2010 5:51:12 PM

PA Bear,

Like Nathan, I'm also curious about the thinking behind you comment, "May I 
ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?" Since you're a "MVP" I 
would be interested in you elaborating on that comment. I'm not attempting 
to start an argument, just want to hear your rationale.

In my case, I replaced a 10 year old desktop that was failing fast 
(hardware) and was not expandable beyond 512MB of ram with a laptop fully 
compatible with 64-bit and most 32-bit applications. I replaced one software 
package (I was due anyway). Since I'm now retired, I can get along without 
Microsoft Office (Works 9, which came with my system gives me what I need). 
The only peripheral that I replace was my scanner and that was because the 
accompanying software was not compatible with 64-bit. I could have kept it, 
the driver worked but I wanted full functionality.

Again, I'm interested in you expanding on your comment.
-- 
Thank You,
Richard


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:OpP1#6ZrKHA.5356@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Two tips: Never assume, and do your research/homework before buying a new 
> computer or upgrading your current computer.
>
> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:
>>
>> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer
>> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists
>> (although I'd have to double-check
>> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and
>> the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy 
>> figuring
>> out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or 
>> alternative)
>> I saw no reason to wait
>>
>> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I
>> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in 
>> makers
>> that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 64-bit
>> isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 64-bit
>> versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware makers 
>> would
>> offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would have made a
>> 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone uses. But I'm 
>> a
>> patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and alternatives, I'm a
>> patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to give Windows 7 users a 
>> 32
>> and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to complain about?
>>
>>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?
>>>
>>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:
>>>
>>>     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows
>>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
>>>     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765 You should familiarize 
>>> yourself with this FAQ:
>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions 
>>> More:
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981 
>>> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that 
>>>> there
>>>> are
>>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the
>>>> following
>>>> locations:
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming 
>>>> this
>>>> is
>>>> a 32-bit version)
>>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is
>>>> the
>>>> 64-bit version)
>>>>
>>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is
>>>> there
>>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I
>>>> have
>>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not 
>>>> supposed
>>>> to
>>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be
>>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would 
>>>> like
>>>> to
>>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on 
>>>> my
>>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit
>>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically
>>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions
>>>> and/or
>>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about 
>>>> it?
>>>> Thanks.
> 
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Reply Richard 2/14/2010 6:27:27 PM

I don't assume, and I did do plenty of research before buying my new 
computer. I read Windows 7 Inside Out from cover to cover (which I believe 
is the best series of books as far as getting in-depth details about 
Windows, I did the same thing with Windows XP Inside Out), I checked online 
for Windows 7 and 64-bit compatible drivers and updates for my hardware and 
software, I even wrote myself a detailed step-by-step list of things to do 
when I got my machine to make sure I did everything exactly the way I wanted 
it. I think I can be considered someone who did their research and homework.
-- 
Nathan Sokalski
njsokalski@hotmail.com
http://www.nathansokalski.com/

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:OpP1#6ZrKHA.5356@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Two tips: Never assume, and do your research/homework before buying a new 
> computer or upgrading your current computer.
>
> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:
>>
>> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer
>> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists
>> (although I'd have to double-check
>> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and
>> the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy 
>> figuring
>> out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or 
>> alternative)
>> I saw no reason to wait
>>
>> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I
>> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in 
>> makers
>> that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 64-bit
>> isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 64-bit
>> versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware makers 
>> would
>> offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would have made a
>> 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone uses. But I'm 
>> a
>> patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and alternatives, I'm a
>> patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to give Windows 7 users a 
>> 32
>> and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to complain about?
>>
>>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?
>>>
>>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:
>>>
>>>     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows
>>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
>>>     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765 You should familiarize 
>>> yourself with this FAQ:
>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions 
>>> More:
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981 
>>> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that 
>>>> there
>>>> are
>>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the
>>>> following
>>>> locations:
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming 
>>>> this
>>>> is
>>>> a 32-bit version)
>>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is
>>>> the
>>>> 64-bit version)
>>>>
>>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is
>>>> there
>>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I
>>>> have
>>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not 
>>>> supposed
>>>> to
>>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be
>>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would 
>>>> like
>>>> to
>>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on 
>>>> my
>>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit
>>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically
>>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions
>>>> and/or
>>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about 
>>>> it?
>>>> Thanks.
> 
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Reply Nathan 2/14/2010 9:41:52 PM

This PA Bear is a crasy guy. What kind of a question is that : May I ask you 
why you....... x64 win...??? What do ya' care why somebody did this or 
that.A man is asking a question, if you can't give him an answer, please, 
don't ask a stupid questiones, It's not up to you, man!!!

"Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> napisao u poruci diskusione 
grupe:8C0B3379-BFDB-4F2C-A1B4-AAB8794B0CF9@microsoft.com...
> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there 
> are two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the 
> following locations:
>
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this 
> is a 32-bit version)
> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is the 
> 64-bit version)
>
> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is 
> there any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and 
> I have not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not 
> supposed to be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is 
> supposed to be better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, 
> I would like to have everything use that if possible. I have changed any 
> shortcuts on my Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am 
> a little bit hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that 
> specifically specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these 
> questions and/or give me some information on some of what I can and/or 
> should do about it? Thanks.
> -- 
> Nathan Sokalski
> njsokalski@hotmail.com
> http://www.nathansokalski.com/ 

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Reply Vjekoslav 2/18/2010 10:48:15 PM

/These/ are "crasy guys" => http://members.fortunecity.com/delanay/snl54.jpg

PS: ur spiel chukkers broke


Vjekoslav wrote:
> This PA Bear is a crasy guy. What kind of a question is that : May I ask 
> you
> why you....... x64 win...??? What do ya' care why somebody did this or
> that.A man is asking a question, if you can't give him an answer, please,
> don't ask a stupid questiones, It's not up to you, man!!!
>
> "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> napisao u poruci diskusione
> grupe:8C0B3379-BFDB-4F2C-A1B4-AAB8794B0CF9@microsoft.com...
>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there
>> are two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the
>> following locations:
>>
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this
>> is a 32-bit version)
>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is 
>> the
>> 64-bit version)
>>
>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is
>> there any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and
>> I have not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not
>> supposed to be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is
>> supposed to be better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 
>> 64-bit,
>> I would like to have everything use that if possible. I have changed any
>> shortcuts on my Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I 
>> am
>> a little bit hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that
>> specifically specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these
>> questions and/or give me some information on some of what I can and/or
>> should do about it? Thanks.
>> --
>> Nathan Sokalski
>> njsokalski@hotmail.com
>> http://www.nathansokalski.com/ 

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Reply PA 2/19/2010 12:44:46 AM

Didn't mean to offend you PA Bear! Come on, no hard feelings, just put 
yourself in a position of one asking whatever.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> napisao u poruci diskusione 
grupe:#bKLX0PsKHA.6004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> /These/ are "crasy guys" => 
> http://members.fortunecity.com/delanay/snl54.jpg
>
> PS: ur spiel chukkers broke
>
>
> Vjekoslav wrote:
>> This PA Bear is a crasy guy. What kind of a question is that : May I ask 
>> you
>> why you....... x64 win...??? What do ya' care why somebody did this or
>> that.A man is asking a question, if you can't give him an answer, please,
>> don't ask a stupid questiones, It's not up to you, man!!!
>>
>> "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> napisao u poruci diskusione
>> grupe:8C0B3379-BFDB-4F2C-A1B4-AAB8794B0CF9@microsoft.com...
>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there
>>> are two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the
>>> following locations:
>>>
>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming 
>>> this
>>> is a 32-bit version)
>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is 
>>> the
>>> 64-bit version)
>>>
>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is
>>> there any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, 
>>> and
>>> I have not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not
>>> supposed to be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is
>>> supposed to be better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 
>>> 64-bit,
>>> I would like to have everything use that if possible. I have changed any
>>> shortcuts on my Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I 
>>> am
>>> a little bit hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that
>>> specifically specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these
>>> questions and/or give me some information on some of what I can and/or
>>> should do about it? Thanks.
>>> --
>>> Nathan Sokalski
>>> njsokalski@hotmail.com
>>> http://www.nathansokalski.com/
> 
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Reply Vjekoslav 2/19/2010 1:59:34 PM

No problem and my gibe about your spelling was all in fun, too.

Vjekoslav wrote:
> Didn't mean to offend you PA Bear! Come on, no hard feelings, just put
> yourself in a position of one asking whatever.
> 
>> /These/ are "crasy guys" =>
>> http://members.fortunecity.com/delanay/snl54.jpg
>> 
>> PS: ur spiel chukkers broke
>> 
>> 
>> Vjekoslav wrote:
>>> This PA Bear is a crasy guy...
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Reply PA 2/19/2010 3:46:11 PM

Hi, Nathan.

Sorry for the delayed response.  I was at the MVP Global Summit this week.

Like you, I prefer to be near - but probably not quite at - the leading 
edge.  I have only one computer, so when it comes time to upgrade, I like to 
get as near state-of-the-art as I can.  When I built my current rig at the 
end of 2006, after we finished the Vista beta and it went RTM, I made sure 
my new mobo/CPU were 64 X2 models, with 2 GB of PC-6400 RAM, since upped to 
4 GB.  The machine is not quite SOTA now, but still quite enough for my 
current needs.  So I agree with your Reasons 1 and 3.

But your Reason 2 is not correct.  ALL versions of Win7 are available in 
both 32-bit and 64-bit editions, but some versions don't have both disks in 
the retail box.  Many OEMs bundle only one version with their hardware, and 
that is increasingly the 64-bit version.  Ultimate x64 is the only version 
of Win7 I've used, except for a minor bit of testing.  Win7 does come with 
BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions in the retail box.  All versions of Win7 
include 32-bit IE8.  Win7 32-bit has only the 32-bit version of IE8, of 
course, since the 64-bit version will not run in 32-bit Windows.  But, as I 
said:  Win7 64-bit comes with BOTH versions of IE8 on the DVD-ROM; both 
versions will run in 64-bit; Win x64 defaults to the 32-bit version of IE8; 
the Win7 x64 user has several ways to run 64-bit IE8.

RC
-- 
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:0C4B1E6F-9270-4500-B79A-E0B23A0880AF@microsoft.com...
> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:
>
> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer
> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists 
> (although I'd have to double-check
> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and 
> the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy 
> figuring out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or 
> alternative) I saw no reason to wait
>
> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I 
> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in makers 
> that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 64-bit 
> isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 64-bit 
> versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware makers would 
> offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would have made a 
> 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone uses. But I'm a 
> patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and alternatives, I'm a 
> patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to give Windows 7 users a 
> 32 and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to complain about?
> -- 
> Nathan Sokalski
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:#sbVFAUrKHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?
>>
>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:
>>
>>     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows 
>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
>>     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765
>>
>> You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: 
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions
>>
>> More: 
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981
>>
>>
>> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that there 
>>> are
>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the 
>>> following
>>> locations:
>>>
>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming 
>>> this is
>>> a 32-bit version)
>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is 
>>> the
>>> 64-bit version)
>>>
>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is 
>>> there
>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I 
>>> have
>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not supposed 
>>> to
>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be
>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would like 
>>> to
>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on my
>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit
>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically
>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions 
>>> and/or
>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about 
>>> it?
>>> Thanks. 

0
Reply R 2/20/2010 10:33:54 PM

It's certainly good to know that there are other people that want to stay 
current in the modern tech. Thanks for clearing up my knowledge about the 
availability of 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows 7. I think I've figured 
out why the 32-bit version of IE8 is the default. Many plug-ins and add-ons 
refuse to work in the 64-bit version (some of them even from Microsoft!). I 
guess I'll have to deal with that for a while just like everyone else and 
use the 32-bit version for those things. I just wish when I did come across 
something in IE8 64-bit that wants one of those plug-ins that it would tell 
me that a 64-bit version of the plug-in is not available instead of asking 
me if I want to install the plug-in when it isn't even compatible with my 
browser and it's just going to keep asking me everytime I visit the page 
with IE8 64-bit anyway. I'm actually quite surprised that some plug-ins 
don't have compatible versions yet, since probably 1/2 the sites on the web 
use them (such as Flash). Anyway, thanks for your response, and hopefully 
some of these places will start moving into 64-bit once more people buy new 
computers with Windows 7 64-Bit preinstalled.
-- 
Nathan Sokalski
njsokalski@hotmail.com
http://www.nathansokalski.com/

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message 
news:uSQMAznsKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Nathan.
>
> Sorry for the delayed response.  I was at the MVP Global Summit this week.
>
> Like you, I prefer to be near - but probably not quite at - the leading 
> edge.  I have only one computer, so when it comes time to upgrade, I like 
> to get as near state-of-the-art as I can.  When I built my current rig at 
> the end of 2006, after we finished the Vista beta and it went RTM, I made 
> sure my new mobo/CPU were 64 X2 models, with 2 GB of PC-6400 RAM, since 
> upped to 4 GB.  The machine is not quite SOTA now, but still quite enough 
> for my current needs.  So I agree with your Reasons 1 and 3.
>
> But your Reason 2 is not correct.  ALL versions of Win7 are available in 
> both 32-bit and 64-bit editions, but some versions don't have both disks 
> in the retail box.  Many OEMs bundle only one version with their hardware, 
> and that is increasingly the 64-bit version.  Ultimate x64 is the only 
> version of Win7 I've used, except for a minor bit of testing.  Win7 does 
> come with BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions in the retail box.  All versions 
> of Win7 include 32-bit IE8.  Win7 32-bit has only the 32-bit version of 
> IE8, of course, since the 64-bit version will not run in 32-bit Windows. 
> But, as I said:  Win7 64-bit comes with BOTH versions of IE8 on the 
> DVD-ROM; both versions will run in 64-bit; Win x64 defaults to the 32-bit 
> version of IE8; the Win7 x64 user has several ways to run 64-bit IE8.
>
> RC
> -- 
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
>
> "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:0C4B1E6F-9270-4500-B79A-E0B23A0880AF@microsoft.com...
>> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:
>>
>> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer
>> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that exists 
>> (although I'd have to double-check
>> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit (and 
>> the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy 
>> figuring out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or 
>> alternative) I saw no reason to wait
>>
>> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I 
>> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in 
>> makers that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 
>> 64-bit isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 
>> 64-bit versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware 
>> makers would offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe would 
>> have made a 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually everyone 
>> uses. But I'm a patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds and 
>> alternatives, I'm a patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough to 
>> give Windows 7 users a 32 and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I have to 
>> complain about?
>> -- 
>> Nathan Sokalski
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:#sbVFAUrKHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?
>>>
>>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:
>>>
>>>     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows 
>>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
>>>     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765
>>>
>>> You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: 
>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions
>>>
>>> More: 
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that 
>>>> there are
>>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the 
>>>> following
>>>> locations:
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming 
>>>> this is
>>>> a 32-bit version)
>>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is 
>>>> the
>>>> 64-bit version)
>>>>
>>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is 
>>>> there
>>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I 
>>>> have
>>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not 
>>>> supposed to
>>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to be
>>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would 
>>>> like to
>>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on 
>>>> my
>>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little bit
>>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that specifically
>>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions 
>>>> and/or
>>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about 
>>>> it?
>>>> Thanks.
> 
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Reply Nathan 2/21/2010 5:19:29 AM

Hi, Nathan.

> Many plug-ins and add-ons refuse to work in the 64-bit version (some of 
> them even from Microsoft!).

Correct.  And I griped about those (again) to Microsoft at the Summit.  I 
got more excuses and rationalizations than promises of fixes.  :>(

> I just wish when I did come across something in IE8 64-bit that wants one 
> of those plug-ins that it would tell me that a 64-bit version of the 
> plug-in is not available instead of asking me if I want to install the 
> plug-in when it isn't even compatible with my browser and it's just going 
> to keep asking me everytime I visit the page with IE8 64-bit anyway.

Agreed!  100%!

RC
-- 
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:264E1F54-76F7-46FB-82C4-6266486CB964@microsoft.com...
> It's certainly good to know that there are other people that want to stay 
> current in the modern tech. Thanks for clearing up my knowledge about the 
> availability of 32 and 64 bit versions of Windows 7. I think I've figured 
> out why the 32-bit version of IE8 is the default. Many plug-ins and 
> add-ons refuse to work in the 64-bit version (some of them even from 
> Microsoft!). I guess I'll have to deal with that for a while just like 
> everyone else and use the 32-bit version for those things. I just wish 
> when I did come across something in IE8 64-bit that wants one of those 
> plug-ins that it would tell me that a 64-bit version of the plug-in is not 
> available instead of asking me if I want to install the plug-in when it 
> isn't even compatible with my browser and it's just going to keep asking 
> me everytime I visit the page with IE8 64-bit anyway. I'm actually quite 
> surprised that some plug-ins don't have compatible versions yet, since 
> probably 1/2 the sites on the web use them (such as Flash). Anyway, thanks 
> for your response, and hopefully some of these places will start moving 
> into 64-bit once more people buy new computers with Windows 7 64-Bit 
> preinstalled.
> -- 
> Nathan Sokalski
> njsokalski@hotmail.com
> http://www.nathansokalski.com/
>
> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message 
> news:uSQMAznsKHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, Nathan.
>>
>> Sorry for the delayed response.  I was at the MVP Global Summit this 
>> week.
>>
>> Like you, I prefer to be near - but probably not quite at - the leading 
>> edge.  I have only one computer, so when it comes time to upgrade, I like 
>> to get as near state-of-the-art as I can.  When I built my current rig at 
>> the end of 2006, after we finished the Vista beta and it went RTM, I made 
>> sure my new mobo/CPU were 64 X2 models, with 2 GB of PC-6400 RAM, since 
>> upped to 4 GB.  The machine is not quite SOTA now, but still quite enough 
>> for my current needs.  So I agree with your Reasons 1 and 3.
>>
>> But your Reason 2 is not correct.  ALL versions of Win7 are available in 
>> both 32-bit and 64-bit editions, but some versions don't have both disks 
>> in the retail box.  Many OEMs bundle only one version with their 
>> hardware, and that is increasingly the 64-bit version.  Ultimate x64 is 
>> the only version of Win7 I've used, except for a minor bit of testing. 
>> Win7 does come with BOTH 32-bit and 64-bit versions in the retail box. 
>> All versions of Win7 include 32-bit IE8.  Win7 32-bit has only the 32-bit 
>> version of IE8, of course, since the 64-bit version will not run in 
>> 32-bit Windows. But, as I said:  Win7 64-bit comes with BOTH versions of 
>> IE8 on the DVD-ROM; both versions will run in 64-bit; Win x64 defaults to 
>> the 32-bit version of IE8; the Win7 x64 user has several ways to run 
>> 64-bit IE8.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Nathan Sokalski" <njsokalski@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:0C4B1E6F-9270-4500-B79A-E0B23A0880AF@microsoft.com...
>>> The reason I am using a 64-bit version of Windows is because:
>>>
>>> 1. That is the version that came with my new computer
>>> 2. I believe 64-bit is the only version of Windows 7 Ultimate that 
>>> exists (although I'd have to double-check
>>> 3. I wanted to move forward, and since most my stuff works on 64-bit 
>>> (and the few things that don't, well, I'm in the tech field, so I enjoy 
>>> figuring out how to make it work or what would make a good workaround or 
>>> alternative) I saw no reason to wait
>>>
>>> Is there something that you have against 64-bit? The only people that I 
>>> thought had a problem with it were some of the hardware and plug-in 
>>> makers that decided to wait so long to make 64-bit drivers and updates. 
>>> 64-bit isn't new, even though not a lot of people used them, there were 
>>> 64-bit versions of XP and Vista, so I would think that most hardware 
>>> makers would offer some kind of 64-bit driver and places like Adobe 
>>> would have made a 64-bit version of stuff like Flash that virtually 
>>> everyone uses. But I'm a patient person, I enjoy looking for workarounds 
>>> and alternatives, I'm a patient person, and Microsoft was smart enough 
>>> to give Windows 7 users a 32 and 64-bit version of IE8, so what do I 
>>> have to complain about?
>>> -- 
>>> Nathan Sokalski
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:#sbVFAUrKHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> May I ask why you purchased a 64-bit version of Windows?
>>>>
>>>> The bulk of this KB article pertains to Windows 7, too:
>>>>
>>>>     A description of the differences between 32-bit versions of Windows 
>>>> Vista and 64-bit versions of Windows Vista:
>>>>     http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946765
>>>>
>>>> You should familiarize yourself with this FAQ: 
>>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-frequently-asked-questions
>>>>
>>>> More: 
>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/thread/babaa5f8-ff06-4ea2-aef6-a9416d65f981
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Sokalski wrote:
>>>>> I recently moved to Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit. I have noticed that 
>>>>> there are
>>>>> two copies of Internet Explorer 8 on the machine, located at the 
>>>>> following
>>>>> locations:
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming 
>>>>> this is
>>>>> a 32-bit version)
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (I am assuming this is 
>>>>> the
>>>>> 64-bit version)
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, why did Windows 7 install both versions? And second, is 
>>>>> there
>>>>> any difference between them? I have tried running both of them, and I 
>>>>> have
>>>>> not noticed any difference, and I am assuming that there is not 
>>>>> supposed to
>>>>> be any noticeable difference. However, because 64-bit is supposed to 
>>>>> be
>>>>> better than 32-bit and one of these is designed for 64-bit, I would 
>>>>> like to
>>>>> have everything use that if possible. I have changed any shortcuts on 
>>>>> my
>>>>> Desktop and Start Menu to use the 64-bit version, but I am a little 
>>>>> bit
>>>>> hesitant to change some of the values in the Registry that 
>>>>> specifically
>>>>> specify the 32-bit version. Can anyone answer any of these questions 
>>>>> and/or
>>>>> give me some information on some of what I can and/or should do about 
>>>>> it?
>>>>> Thanks. 

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Reply R 2/22/2010 3:42:36 AM

yeah, it's not accidently, that was an intention

stay well

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