Adding SQL 2008 Expr SP1 as a pre-requisite

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Please could someone advise on the best way of adding the necessary bootstrap 
files for SQL Server 2008 Express SP1 (I am running VS 2008 SP1).

I have added SQL Server 2008 Express (pre SP1); I think this was following 
the instructions at the following:
  
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2008/09/12/faq-installing-the-sql-server-2008-express-clickonce-bootstrapper-for-visual-studio-2008-sp1.aspx

However, pre SP1 does not support Windows 7 so I need the SP1 files. I can 
download the installation files:
  
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=01af61e6-2f63-4291-bcad-fd500f6027ff&displaylang=en

.... but what about the package.xml, product.xml and SqlExpressChk.exe files?

I don't really want to have to resort to the workaround in the first link 
above (especially if I don't know if it will work) and I do not want to have 
to create the package.xml file from scratch (and I presume I need a different 
version of SqlExpressChk.exe). I have tried a web search but can't seem to 
find anything.

Can someone provide a good link for the necessary files?

Thanks in advance,
Jeremy


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Reply Utf 12/14/2009 12:39:01 PM

Hi Jeremy

Sorry, I don't have the solution to your problem. I just wanted to ask you a 
question:

How the h*** did you get your SQL Server 2008 upgraded with SP1 in the first 
place?

I'm trying to install it on my new Windows 7 installation, but it refuses to 
install the required SP1. I have tried downloading the SP directly from 
MSDN, but the installation just quits without any useful error message.

I have also tried installing the SP via Windows Update, but if fails there 
too, and so does two updates for Visual Studio 2008...

Did you have similar problems?

TIA,
/Johnny J.




"Jeremy Sage" <Jeremy Sage@newsgroup.nospam> skrev i meddelandet 
news:268D7993-0E1F-452A-A3E1-1D6990C4A866@microsoft.com...
> Please could someone advise on the best way of adding the necessary 
> bootstrap
> files for SQL Server 2008 Express SP1 (I am running VS 2008 SP1).
>
> I have added SQL Server 2008 Express (pre SP1); I think this was following
> the instructions at the following:
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2008/09/12/faq-installing-the-sql-server-2008-express-clickonce-bootstrapper-for-visual-studio-2008-sp1.aspx
>
> However, pre SP1 does not support Windows 7 so I need the SP1 files. I can
> download the installation files:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=01af61e6-2f63-4291-bcad-fd500f6027ff&displaylang=en
>
> ... but what about the package.xml, product.xml and SqlExpressChk.exe 
> files?
>
> I don't really want to have to resort to the workaround in the first link
> above (especially if I don't know if it will work) and I do not want to 
> have
> to create the package.xml file from scratch (and I presume I need a 
> different
> version of SqlExpressChk.exe). I have tried a web search but can't seem to
> find anything.
>
> Can someone provide a good link for the necessary files?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jeremy
>
> 

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Reply Johnny 12/14/2009 3:19:34 PM


=?Utf-8?B?SmVyZW15IFNhZ2U=?= <Jeremy Sage@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in 
news:268D7993-0E1F-452A-A3E1-1D6990C4A866@microsoft.com:

> Can someone provide a good link for the necessary files?

Here is something someone "hacked" up:
http://snurl.com/tol2c 

This just shows how to get the bootstrapper and is probably a bit too 
light for your needs.

I also found this one:
http://snurl.com/tol1j

I am not sure if it will solve your problem directly, but it is one 
option to look at.

Peace and Grace,


-- 
Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)

Twitter: @gbworld
Blog: http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com

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Reply Gregory 12/14/2009 3:22:20 PM

I don't know if this answers your question as I am running VS on Vista but 
doing an install of an application on Windows 7 that needed SQL 2008 I found 
that installing SQL pre SP1 just errored without a useful message but 
installed SQL 2008 Express SP1 direct from the MS website and it installed OK 
and the rest of the application installed and ran OK.

MS download for SQL 2008 Express SP1:
  
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=01AF61E6-2F63-4291-BCAD-FD500F6027FF&displaylang=en

HTH
Jeremy



"Johnny J." wrote:

> Hi Jeremy
> 
> Sorry, I don't have the solution to your problem. I just wanted to ask you a 
> question:
> 
> How the h*** did you get your SQL Server 2008 upgraded with SP1 in the first 
> place?
> 
> I'm trying to install it on my new Windows 7 installation, but it refuses to 
> install the required SP1. I have tried downloading the SP directly from 
> MSDN, but the installation just quits without any useful error message.
> 
> I have also tried installing the SP via Windows Update, but if fails there 
> too, and so does two updates for Visual Studio 2008...
> 
> Did you have similar problems?
> 
> TIA,
> /Johnny J.
> 

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Reply Utf 12/14/2009 5:20:01 PM

Thanks for the reply. The first reference goes back to the first link I 
posted. This hack proposes downloading VS 2008 SP1 (and refers to SQL Server 
Express 2008 pre SP1) - this has the advantage of including the packge files 
but I am not sure whether the latest version of VS includes SP1 for SQL. I 
don't really want to go down this route only to find that I have ended up 
with SQL pre SP1. The download page:
  
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=FBEE1648-7106-44A7-9649-6D9F6D58056E&displaylang=en
only refers to SQL Server 2008 (no ref to SP1) and again, info on say VB 
2008 Express:
  http://www.microsoft.com/express/vb/
only refers to SQL Server 2008 Express with no reference to SP1. If anyone 
can advise on whether the latest version of VS 2008 Express SP1 includes SQL 
Server Express 2008 SP1 it would be greatly appreciated.

The second link refers to SQL Server with tools but seems again to refer to 
the pre SP1 version. Although it gives details on the package files, one of 
the problems is that I want to make sure that I can install on to Windows 7 - 
and as Windows 7 does not seem to be supported until SP1 I don't think the 
package files will include the necessary content.

Thanks anyway.



"Gregory A. Beamer" wrote:

> Here is something someone "hacked" up:
> http://snurl.com/tol2c 
> 
> This just shows how to get the bootstrapper and is probably a bit too 
> light for your needs.
> 
> I also found this one:
> http://snurl.com/tol1j
> 

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Reply Utf 12/14/2009 7:08:01 PM

=?Utf-8?B?SmVyZW15IFNhZ2U=?= <Jeremy Sage@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in
news:FA363ABA-293B-4CBA-8C95-2FB2DECE1804@microsoft.com: 

> The second link refers to SQL Server with tools but seems again to
> refer to the pre SP1 version. Although it gives details on the package
> files, one of the problems is that I want to make sure that I can
> install on to Windows 7 - and as Windows 7 does not seem to be
> supported until SP1 I don't think the package files will include the
> necessary content. 

In general, to make an SP package, you have to download the bits and 
replace part o fhte original installer and package. The other option is 
set up a bootstrap to the original install and then to the SP.

In the case of some versions of express, installing the SP is enough, as 
it is a full package. Not so for SQL 2008, unless something has recently 
changed.

The bad news is setting up the MSIs locally is often a violation of the 
EULA, depending on the product, so you are often the "victim" of an 
inferior solution.

Sorry I did not have some other solution to offer.

Peace and Grace,

-- 
Gregory A. Beamer (MVP)

Twitter: @gbworld
Blog: http://gregorybeamer.spaces.live.com

*******************************************
|      Think outside the box!             |
*******************************************
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Reply Gregory 12/14/2009 7:42:15 PM

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