I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and I need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. How can I do this? Thanks for your help.

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1/30/2010 2:12:52 PM

=ROUND(RAND(),1) -- Kind regards, Niek Otten Microsoft MVP - Excel "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:%23FEwQZboKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then >use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and I >need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. > > How can I do this? > > Thanks for your help.

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1/30/2010 2:48:30 PM

Thanks! Not quite familiar with Excel functions. I appreciate it. "Niek Otten" <nicolaus@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:%23r1eCtboKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > =ROUND(RAND(),1) > > -- > Kind regards, > > Niek Otten > Microsoft MVP - Excel > > "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:%23FEwQZboKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then >>use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and I >>need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. >> >> How can I do this? >> >> Thanks for your help. >

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1/30/2010 3:02:21 PM

"SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote: > I want to make a random number in a cell with the > RAND function and then use it in a calculation. > Right now it goes to several decimal place and I > need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. > How can I do this? Ostensibly, ROUNDDOWN(RAND(),1). However, that might not be the right thing to for your purposes. That would be the right thing to do if you are trying to select a random factor from the following list of ten: 0.0, 0.1, 0.2,..., 0.9. (Note that I used ROUNDDOWN, not ROUND. That preserves the expectation that RAND returns a result from and including zero up to but excluding one. That expectation is often critical to the use of RAND in most formulas. If you use ROUND instead, you are effectively selecting from a list of 11, to wit: 0.0, 0.1, 0.2,..., 1.0.) But I wonder if you are really using RAND() as a factor in some larger expression, and you wish the result of the entire expression to be limited to one decimal place. In that case, you probably want to round (or round down) the result of the entire expression. For example: =ROUND(A1 + A2*RAND(), 1) or at least =A1 + ROUND(A2*RAND(),1) The timing of when to round (or round down) can have a major impact on the outcome, depending the magnitude of numbers. Consider the example where A2 is 33 and RAND() returns about 0.15. 1. A2*ROUND(RAND(),1) is 6.6. 2. A2*ROUNDDOWN(RAND(),1) is 3.3. 3. ROUND(A2*RAND(),1) is 5.0. The point is: you will get a more robust range of A2*RAND() when you delay rounding as opposed to rounding (down) RAND first.

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1/30/2010 4:14:49 PM

Another option might be to divide an integer by 10. =RANDBETWEEN(0,100) / 10 For 0.0 to 10.0 = = = = = = = HTH Dana DeLouis On 1/30/10 9:12 AM, SAC wrote: > I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then > use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and > I need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. > > How can I do this? > > Thanks for your help.

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1/30/2010 4:24:07 PM

>=ROUND(RAND(),1) That could possibly return a result of 1 if RAND() = something like 0.9999999999999999. Maybe something like this: =TRUNC(RAND(),1) But that can also return a result of 0. Is 0 a valid number for your application? -- Biff Microsoft Excel MVP "Niek Otten" <nicolaus@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:%23r1eCtboKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > =ROUND(RAND(),1) > > -- > Kind regards, > > Niek Otten > Microsoft MVP - Excel > > "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:%23FEwQZboKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then >>use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and I >>need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. >> >> How can I do this? >> >> Thanks for your help. >

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1/30/2010 4:26:36 PM

I wrote: > Consider the example where A2 is 33 and RAND() > returns about 0.15. [....] > The point is: you will get a more robust range > of A2*RAND() when you delay rounding as opposed > to rounding (down) RAND first. To clarify, if you do A2*ROUND(RAND(),1), you are limiting the result of the entire expression to 0, 3.3, 6.6, 9.9, 13.2, 16.5, 19.8, 23.1, 26.4, 29.7 and 33. With ROUND(A2*RAND(),1), the result will be any of 331 values from 0.0, 0.1, 0.2,..., 32.8, 32.9 and 33.0. That is usually what we want. ----- original message ----- "Joe User" <joeu2004> wrote in message news:%23uFAadcoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote: >> I want to make a random number in a cell with the >> RAND function and then use it in a calculation. >> Right now it goes to several decimal place and I >> need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. >> How can I do this? > > Ostensibly, ROUNDDOWN(RAND(),1). However, that might not be the right > thing to for your purposes. > > That would be the right thing to do if you are trying to select a random > factor from the following list of ten: 0.0, 0.1, 0.2,..., 0.9. > > (Note that I used ROUNDDOWN, not ROUND. That preserves the expectation > that RAND returns a result from and including zero up to but excluding > one. That expectation is often critical to the use of RAND in most > formulas. If you use ROUND instead, you are effectively selecting from a > list of 11, to wit: 0.0, 0.1, 0.2,..., 1.0.) > > But I wonder if you are really using RAND() as a factor in some larger > expression, and you wish the result of the entire expression to be limited > to one decimal place. In that case, you probably want to round (or round > down) the result of the entire expression. For example: > > =ROUND(A1 + A2*RAND(), 1) > > or at least > > =A1 + ROUND(A2*RAND(),1) > > The timing of when to round (or round down) can have a major impact on the > outcome, depending the magnitude of numbers. Consider the example where > A2 is 33 and RAND() returns about 0.15. > > 1. A2*ROUND(RAND(),1) is 6.6. > 2. A2*ROUNDDOWN(RAND(),1) is 3.3. > 3. ROUND(A2*RAND(),1) is 5.0. > > The point is: you will get a more robust range of A2*RAND() when you > delay rounding as opposed to rounding (down) RAND first.

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1/30/2010 4:33:39 PM

Hello, I suggest to use my UDF RndDecPlace: http://sulprobil.com/html/rnddecplace.html You can define easily whether to start with 0.0 or 0.1 and whether to stop with 0.9 or 1.0... Regards, Bernd

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1/31/2010 12:52:03 AM

Thanks! "T. Valko" <biffinpitt@comcast.net> wrote in message news:ucHj$jcoKHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >=ROUND(RAND(),1) > > That could possibly return a result of 1 if RAND() = something like > 0.9999999999999999. > > Maybe something like this: > > =TRUNC(RAND(),1) > > But that can also return a result of 0. Is 0 a valid number for your > application? > > -- > Biff > Microsoft Excel MVP > > > "Niek Otten" <nicolaus@xs4all.nl> wrote in message > news:%23r1eCtboKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> =ROUND(RAND(),1) >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> >> Niek Otten >> Microsoft MVP - Excel >> >> "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote in message >> news:%23FEwQZboKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then >>>use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and >>>I need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. >>> >>> How can I do this? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >> > >

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2/2/2010 5:29:39 PM

Wow! Thanks, Joe. "Joe User" <joeu2004> wrote in message news:%23V1u7ncoKHA.1544@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I wrote: >> Consider the example where A2 is 33 and RAND() >> returns about 0.15. > [....] >> The point is: you will get a more robust range >> of A2*RAND() when you delay rounding as opposed >> to rounding (down) RAND first. > > To clarify, if you do A2*ROUND(RAND(),1), you are limiting the result of > the entire expression to 0, 3.3, 6.6, 9.9, 13.2, 16.5, 19.8, 23.1, 26.4, > 29.7 and 33. > > With ROUND(A2*RAND(),1), the result will be any of 331 values from 0.0, > 0.1, 0.2,..., 32.8, 32.9 and 33.0. That is usually what we want. > > > ----- original message ----- > > "Joe User" <joeu2004> wrote in message > news:%23uFAadcoKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote: >>> I want to make a random number in a cell with the >>> RAND function and then use it in a calculation. >>> Right now it goes to several decimal place and I >>> need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. >>> How can I do this? >> >> Ostensibly, ROUNDDOWN(RAND(),1). However, that might not be the right >> thing to for your purposes. >> >> That would be the right thing to do if you are trying to select a random >> factor from the following list of ten: 0.0, 0.1, 0.2,..., 0.9. >> >> (Note that I used ROUNDDOWN, not ROUND. That preserves the expectation >> that RAND returns a result from and including zero up to but excluding >> one. That expectation is often critical to the use of RAND in most >> formulas. If you use ROUND instead, you are effectively selecting from a >> list of 11, to wit: 0.0, 0.1, 0.2,..., 1.0.) >> >> But I wonder if you are really using RAND() as a factor in some larger >> expression, and you wish the result of the entire expression to be >> limited to one decimal place. In that case, you probably want to round >> (or round down) the result of the entire expression. For example: >> >> =ROUND(A1 + A2*RAND(), 1) >> >> or at least >> >> =A1 + ROUND(A2*RAND(),1) >> >> The timing of when to round (or round down) can have a major impact on >> the outcome, depending the magnitude of numbers. Consider the example >> where A2 is 33 and RAND() returns about 0.15. >> >> 1. A2*ROUND(RAND(),1) is 6.6. >> 2. A2*ROUNDDOWN(RAND(),1) is 3.3. >> 3. ROUND(A2*RAND(),1) is 5.0. >> >> The point is: you will get a more robust range of A2*RAND() when you >> delay rounding as opposed to rounding (down) RAND first. >

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2/2/2010 5:29:53 PM

Good idea. Thanks. "Dana DeLouis" <delouis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:eXymmicoKHA.1556@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Another option might be to divide an integer by 10. > > =RANDBETWEEN(0,100) / 10 > > For 0.0 to 10.0 > > = = = = = = = > HTH > Dana DeLouis > > > On 1/30/10 9:12 AM, SAC wrote: >> I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then >> use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and >> I need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. >> >> How can I do this? >> >> Thanks for your help.

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2/2/2010 5:30:12 PM

OK, thanks. "Bernd P" <bplumhoff@gmail.com> wrote in message news:cc4a59db-11f6-47c8-96bb-187c751ae4a4@c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > Hello, > > I suggest to use my UDF RndDecPlace: > http://sulprobil.com/html/rnddecplace.html > > You can define easily whether to start with 0.0 or 0.1 and whether to > stop with 0.9 or 1.0... > > Regards, > Bernd

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2/2/2010 5:30:26 PM

You're welcome! -- Biff Microsoft Excel MVP "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:%236LCP1CpKHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Thanks! > "T. Valko" <biffinpitt@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ucHj$jcoKHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >=ROUND(RAND(),1) >> >> That could possibly return a result of 1 if RAND() = something like >> 0.9999999999999999. >> >> Maybe something like this: >> >> =TRUNC(RAND(),1) >> >> But that can also return a result of 0. Is 0 a valid number for your >> application? >> >> -- >> Biff >> Microsoft Excel MVP >> >> >> "Niek Otten" <nicolaus@xs4all.nl> wrote in message >> news:%23r1eCtboKHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> =ROUND(RAND(),1) >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Niek Otten >>> Microsoft MVP - Excel >>> >>> "SAC" <sac@somewhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23FEwQZboKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>I want to make a random number in a cell with the RAND function and then >>>>use it in a calculation. Right now it goes to several decimal place and >>>>I need it to only have one decimal in the calculation. >>>> >>>> How can I do this? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help. >>> >> >> >

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