Windows 7 checked HAL source file

I went through the following page about installing just checked build OS and 
HAL for Windows 7, as it stated for Vista and later
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc835892.aspx

I cant find HAL SourceFileName from "%SystemRoot%\Inf\setuppapi.dev.log" 
file as hal.dll is not available

I had halacpi.dll and halmacpi.dll file available in WDK i386 debug 
directory, these file names are not present on the log file(!)

I just went on and used halmacpi.dll file as the HAL source file (as my 
target system is multiprocessor) and updated the boot entry as well, as less 
expected the system failed to boot and gone for a system repair

I tried the other hal file also, the results are the same

How to get the correct HAL source file for Windows 7?
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Have you tried in explorer right clicking hal.dll and choosing properties, 
then under the version tab checking original file name?  I've done this ons 
systems through Vista, but not on Win7 to get the name?


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>I went through the following page about installing just checked build OS 
>and
> HAL for Windows 7, as it stated for Vista and later
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc835892.aspx
>
> I cant find HAL SourceFileName from "%SystemRoot%\Inf\setuppapi.dev.log"
> file as hal.dll is not available
>
> I had halacpi.dll and halmacpi.dll file available in WDK i386 debug
> directory, these file names are not present on the log file(!)
>
> I just went on and used halmacpi.dll file as the HAL source file (as my
> target system is multiprocessor) and updated the boot entry as well, as 
> less
> expected the system failed to boot and gone for a system repair
>
> I tried the other hal file also, the results are the same
>
> How to get the correct HAL source file for Windows 7?
>
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Don
12/24/2009 6:35:13 PM
    Am I wrong that Vista+ Windows has 1 and only 1 HAL (halmacpi)?

--=20
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Windows DDK MVP
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

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> then under the version tab checking original file name?  I've done =
this ons=20
> systems through Vista, but not on Win7 to get the name?
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>>I went through the following page about installing just checked build =
OS=20
>>and
>> HAL for Windows 7, as it stated for Vista and later
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc835892.aspx
>>
>> I cant find HAL SourceFileName from =
"%SystemRoot%\Inf\setuppapi.dev.log"
>> file as hal.dll is not available
>>
>> I had halacpi.dll and halmacpi.dll file available in WDK i386 debug
>> directory, these file names are not present on the log file(!)
>>
>> I just went on and used halmacpi.dll file as the HAL source file (as =
my
>> target system is multiprocessor) and updated the boot entry as well, =
as=20
>> less
>> expected the system failed to boot and gone for a system repair
>>
>> I tried the other hal file also, the results are the same
>>
>> How to get the correct HAL source file for Windows 7?
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus=20
>> signature database 4715 (20091224) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
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Maxim
12/25/2009 10:23:48 AM
Did you also use the checked kernel? The kernel and HAL need to match, so 
they either need to both be free or both be checked.

-scott

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"Sethu" <Sethu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:3035C58A-9541-4217-9E77-45CB588DFC66@microsoft.com...
> I went through the following page about installing just checked build OS 
> and
> HAL for Windows 7, as it stated for Vista and later
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc835892.aspx
>
> I cant find HAL SourceFileName from "%SystemRoot%\Inf\setuppapi.dev.log"
> file as hal.dll is not available
>
> I had halacpi.dll and halmacpi.dll file available in WDK i386 debug
> directory, these file names are not present on the log file(!)
>
> I just went on and used halmacpi.dll file as the HAL source file (as my
> target system is multiprocessor) and updated the boot entry as well, as 
> less
> expected the system failed to boot and gone for a system repair
>
> I tried the other hal file also, the results are the same
>
> How to get the correct HAL source file for Windows 7? 

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Scott
12/27/2009 12:58:00 PM
I checked the halmacpi.dll version (6.1.7600.16385) and original file name 
(same name). 

If halmacpi.dll is the HAL file for the multiprocessor system then why it is 
not logged in setuppapi.dev.log file?

Yeah Scott, I used kernel and HAL files together

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Utf
12/28/2009 7:35:02 AM
I followed the same procedure in Vista SP1 x86 PC (dual boot)

1. Searched hal.dll in setuppapi.dev.log file and found HAL source file name 
(halmacpi.dll)
2. Got the kernel file name by running 'lmv mnt' command in the attached 
debugger
3. Renamed halmacpi.dll and ntkrpamp.exe file from WDK debug directory to 
halmacpi.chk and ntkrpamp.chk resp
4. Copied both the files to %SystemRoot%\system32 folder
5. Modified kernel and HAL boot entries as specified (bcdedit /set {ID} 
kernel ntkrpamp.chk) (bcdedit /set {ID} hal halmacpi.chk)

During the next boot I am getting PSHED.dll file missing or corrupted with 
status code 0xC0000098

I even reset system file protection in registry before copying the files 
(HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Windows File 
Protection\SFCDisable (REG_DWORD) 2)

If I went for system repair with boot disk, HAL and kernel checked files are 
removed and system boots properly with HAL and kernel boot entry options 
present

How to solve this to get checked build for Vista and 7?
Please post your comments
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Utf
12/28/2009 6:00:01 PM
> 1. Searched hal.dll in setuppapi.dev.log file and found HAL source =
file name=20
> (halmacpi.dll)

You can also compare the installed HAL with all hal*.dll files in the =
distro.

> 2. Got the kernel file name by running 'lmv mnt' command in the =
attached=20
> debugger
> 3. Renamed halmacpi.dll and ntkrpamp.exe file from WDK debug directory =
to=20
> halmacpi.chk and ntkrpamp.chk resp
> 4. Copied both the files to %SystemRoot%\system32 folder
> 5. Modified kernel and HAL boot entries as specified (bcdedit /set =
{ID}=20
> kernel ntkrpamp.chk) (bcdedit /set {ID} hal halmacpi.chk)

Correct. This works fine for me for 2008 R2 x64 (the only OS where I use =
the checked kernel).

--=20
Maxim S. Shatskih
Windows DDK MVP
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

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Maxim
12/28/2009 7:16:24 PM
Thanks Maxim for your post

I tried all the three HAL dll files, halmacpi.dll, halacpi.dll and hal.dll 
(orginal file name halmacpi.dll), the results are the same

The errors may be different in Vista and 7, on Vista SP1 pshed.dll is 
missing and on 7 it launches system repair utility

Please suggest where I can get more help on this
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Utf
12/29/2009 8:10:01 AM
Have you booted with /debug and hooked a debugger up when the system fails 
to boot? It could be something as simple as an ASSERT in the checked build 
firing, which would cause instant death if you aren't booted with debugging 
enabled.

-scott

-- 
Scott Noone
Consulting Associate
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osronline.com

"Sethu" <Sethu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:714FAF34-CE1C-436F-8012-238EF164FEA9@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Maxim for your post
>
> I tried all the three HAL dll files, halmacpi.dll, halacpi.dll and hal.dll
> (orginal file name halmacpi.dll), the results are the same
>
> The errors may be different in Vista and 7, on Vista SP1 pshed.dll is
> missing and on 7 it launches system repair utility
>
> Please suggest where I can get more help on this 


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Scott
12/30/2009 5:02:41 PM
Still I am having this problem

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Utf
1/5/2010 12:37:01 PM
Have you tried to hook up a debugger yet?

-scott

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Consulting Associate
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"Sethu" <Sethu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
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> Still I am having this problem
> 


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Scott
1/5/2010 2:45:06 PM
Yeah Scot. I already had the debugger attached through firewire cable

I guess the problem is happening before debugger attachment, that why no 
exception is caught on debugger

In Win7 'Starting Windows' is appearing for few sec and going to system 
repair after that, no error message

I am using the HAL checked binaries from WDK 7600.16385 for Win7

Since the document for Win7 is not complete I am bugging you (HAL source 
file name not present in setuppapi.dev.log file)

0
Utf
1/6/2010 7:27:01 AM
Bummer, so the boot loader doesn't like it.

Here's the checklist that I follow when things don't work:

1) Both kernel and HAL are in \SystemRoot\System32

2) Both kernel and HAL have 8.3 names

3) Both kernel and HAL are checked

4) Switches in BCD/boot.ini are spelled correctly

5) Parameters to switches in BCD/boot.ini are spelled correctly

If that's all correct then I'm definitely stumped.

-scott

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Consulting Associate
OSR Open Systems Resources, Inc.
http://www.osronline.com


"Sethu" <Sethu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:294E7A4A-CE7C-415E-BFE8-CB1B32ECDA41@microsoft.com...
> Yeah Scot. I already had the debugger attached through firewire cable
>
> I guess the problem is happening before debugger attachment, that why no
> exception is caught on debugger
>
> In Win7 'Starting Windows' is appearing for few sec and going to system
> repair after that, no error message
>
> I am using the HAL checked binaries from WDK 7600.16385 for Win7
>
> Since the document for Win7 is not complete I am bugging you (HAL source
> file name not present in setuppapi.dev.log file)
> 
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Scott
1/6/2010 1:37:45 PM
> Bummer, so the boot loader doesn't like it.
>
> Here's the checklist that I follow when things don't work:

You can also try enabling boot debugging (bcdedit /set bootdebug on)
to see if that gives any additional clues.

-- 
Pavel Lebedinsky/Windows Fundamentals Test
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. 


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Pavel
1/6/2010 6:12:54 PM
Hi Scott,

I got partial checked build working, there couple of problems lying

1. Although my system is multi-core (core 2 and Event ID 6009 as 
Multiprocessor Free), I need ntkrnlpa.exe kernel file which is for 
Uniprocessor PAE support

My big surprise is when I ran 'lmv mnt' through debugger it lists 
ntkrpamp.exe as the kernel file loaded ?? but why it needs ntkrnlpa.exe file 
instead?

2. This Uniprocessor kernel file is not available with WDK unlike 
Multiprocessor file. I have to download and install checked build Win7 to get 
this kernel file, which contradicts the need for going to partial checked 
build

Thanks
Sethu
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Utf
2/3/2010 6:54:01 AM
> 2. This Uniprocessor kernel file is not available with WDK unlike=20
> Multiprocessor file.=20

Am I wrong that the released Windows have no uniprocessor kernel since =
Vista?

--=20
Maxim S. Shatskih
Windows DDK MVP
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

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Maxim
2/3/2010 10:50:53 PM
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